Re: [epf-dev] Inconsistency: Additional Performers

[Per Kroll <pkroll@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I assume we should use the same number
as on the general call for our 7 AM PDT call on this issue
Toll-free dial-in: 1-877-421-0025 
Toll dial-in: 1-770-615-1242 
Tie-line dial-in: 421-0025 
Participant passcode: 876927

I do not have the main code, but I assume
that Jim / Ricardo does...

Cheers

Per Kroll
STSM, Manager Methods: RUP / RMC
Project Lead: Eclipse Process Framework
Rational Software, IBM Corp
408-342-3815

"Scott W. Ambler" <swa@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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09/28/2006 08:47 PM

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I can definitely be on the con call tomorrow,
just might not have good computer access.  Not sure yet.
 
I'll take a pass at https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=159211
and open a similar bug for design tasks if appropriate.  I really
prefer introducing a new bug, keeps it clean.
 
- Scott
 

Scott W. Ambler
Practice Leader Agile Development, IBM
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/rational/bios/ambler.html
 
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jim
Ruehlin 
To: epf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: [epf-dev] Inconsistency: Additional
Performers

Scott and I just got off the
phone about this. Here’s what we recommend to address this:
 
1.        Have
a concall at 7 AM Pacific tomorrow. Go through the architecture & development
tasks and see if they need additional performers. If a task does warrant
it, determine which step(s) that task is involved in, and assign someone
to write the content.

2.        After
the call, everyone writes the content they’ve committed to and submits
it to CVS. At 10:00 pacific all changes should be in CVS and everyone reviews
each other’s materials. Note any glaring problems.

3.        Have
a quick concall at 10:30 Pacific where any showstoppers are communicated
(hopefully there will be none). After the call the original writers fix
the task steps as appropriate.

 
Scott can’t be on the call
in the morning so he’s going to look it over tonight and send his recommendations.
 
If people think this scenario
would work, I’ll set up the meeting. If someone has an easier solution
then let’s do that!
 
Thanks,
Jim
 
____________________
Jim Ruehlin, IBM Rational
RUP Content Developer
Eclipse Process Framework
(EPF) Committer
email:   jruehlin@xxxxxxxxxx
phone:  760.505.3232
fax:      949.369.0720

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From: epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of "Scott W.
Ambler" <swa@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:56 PM
To: epf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [epf-dev] Inconsistency: Additional Performers
 

Agreed. We need to update these tasks ASAP. 

Should we post bugs for each individual task and then a parent bug? 

- Scott 

On Thu, September 28, 2006 5:35 pm, Per Kroll said: 
> Hi, 
> 
> we have a pretty significant difference in usage of Additional 
> Performance. 
> 
> For the Intent and PM tasks , we have many additional performers to
> articulate the collaborative nature, which is enabled by having all
roles 
> in teh collaboration layer 
> For the Solutions tasks, we have normally no additional performers.
I am 
> fine with that for some tasks like "Run tests", where you
do not need to 
> collaborate with tons of people, but I do not like that the architect
is 
> more or less doing all architecture work without collaborating with
> everybody in the team, or the developer do design without working
with 
> analyst and tester (architect is already there). I think Design shold
be a 
> collaborative task.... 
> 
> What do you others think? I am afraid that current implementation
will 
> come across as more traditional than agile.... 
> 
> I think this can be addressed by addressing the 3 arch tasks, + design
> task.. 

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