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[eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] FW: question from a declined speaker
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email conversation about rejection with Sebastian Zarnekow…..
Hi Christian,
thanks for your very fast and detailled answer. I fully see your point. Actually I wanted to suggest that one of my accepted talks is exchanged with the Buckminster talk. Given your feedback Dennis and I decided that this would be a bad deal. Next time we will give our abstract / the concept of the proposed talk a third (and forth?!) thought to come up with something yet more interesting and controversial. Maybe we can generate some interest in Buckminster while attending a bof about building plugins or similar.
Thanks again for your time and the great work you and the other members of the PC did,
Sebastian
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Hi Sebastian,
we like you as a speaker for ECE. One of the reasons you got 3 talks. (you dont find many with 3 talks believe me)….
I think the comments from the PC fits pretty much with what the abstract was telling us. The abstract is not only for the PC but also but the attendees to attract them to your talk. So I think given the current situation, would I recommend to a new project to use Buckminster ? Probably not and that was the reason for the PC to not choose your call.
8 people in the PC voted from 0-10 (10 = good, 0=bad) The votes were 0 X 3 3 4 8 5 5 with an average of 4,00 and you needed a 5,88 to get into the program. So its not even a corner case.
I think your explanation makes sense not sure I understand why that is not in the abstract in the first place. :-)
At the this stage acceptance and rejections are out. We can possibly not reject another talk for this one.
I was thinking about offering you that you return one of your talks in exchange for this talk. However your other talks have average votes like 7.4 . We would (in the opinon) of the PC exchange bad content for good content.
If you wish we can try but I am not even convince myself that this is a good idea.
any suggestion ?
christian
Hi all -- If this seems like the best process, I'll post enquiries from declined ECE speakers on the mailing list so that the PC can respond. Perhaps Christian should answer, with input from the rest as needed? Whatever works for you as long as we answer. (For
OSGi talks, I'll send those to the OSGi PC.)
Here's one we got today:
Subject: Re: EclipseCon Europe: your talk has been declined
Date: August 23, 2012 8:23:09 PM PDT
Hi everybody,
I'm pretty sure you had a hard time to pick the most interesting sessions for EclipseCon Europe 2012 and I can imagine that you get a lot of disappointed mails right now.
However, I've a question regarding the comments to the proposed session about Buckminster ('Why do EMF and Xtext build with Buckminster'). I'm aware of the fact that there does not seem to be too much activity in the Buckminster source reposity but
this could even be a sign of maturity and not a sign of a dead technology, can't it?
We put the focus of our abstract explicitly on the strength Buckminster alone (instead of talking about weaknesses of the alternatives). However, it would be possible to shift it slightly to a more comparitive style. Since Dennis pretty much used any
available technology in the past to build rather complex set up Eclipse projects, he's a lot of experience with that and knows about the drawbacks, the must-haves and the niceties of all those (PDE build, athena, maven tycho, buckminster ... as I said pretty
much everything was used). So it's not that we try to ride a dead horse on the releng side of EMF and Xtext but that we are convinced about the Buckminsters based technology stack. Given the fact that Maven-CBI still strives for goals that Buckminster already
reached two years ago, we're pretty excited about that. Is there any chance that you reconsider the decision to decline the proposed session?
I'm on vacation until Tuesday, 28. Sep so I won't be able to answer immediatly to your reponse. Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to hearing from you,
Anne Jacko
Eclipse Foundation
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