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Re: [ecf-dev] shared editing design thought
- From: Scott Lewis <slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:53:23 -0700
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Ken Gilmer wrote:
From a usability perspective it seems like a great step forward. The
only concerns I can think if are potential latency issue when
generating the contact list.
Yes, this could be an issue...although since the contact list is cached
locally (as per the IRosterManager), I'm expecting the performance can
be made sufficient (no network access to get current contacts/presence
On Oct 27, 2007, at 7:07 PM, Scott Lewis <slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We at BEA have/will/are doing some work with using ECF to add
real-time shared editing to commercial and OS editors...i.e. text
editors, structured editors (e.g. java, other langs, xml, etc),
graphical editors, and the like.
I was thinking yesterday was that it is typically unnecessarily
difficult to setup a sharing/editing session. It usually has to be
explicitly done by one or both participants prior to the actual
shared editing...and it's often error prone.
This is true also of the existing cola shared editor...the setup of
the shared editing session is kind of cumbersome.
I had one thought about how this could be easier...and I thought I
would throw it out to the mailing list:
Let's assume that user 'slewis' has a (e.g.) text editor open. At a
certain point, they decide that they would like to initiate a shared
editing session with another party (e.g. 'codesurgeon'). At that
point, 'slewis' has to initiate a shared editing session.
What if they simply opened the editor's context menu, and chose
'Share'->codesurgeon...and this initiated a shared editing session
with codesurgeon. This begs the question, though...where does the
'Share'->codesurgeon menu come from? My answer: Using Eclipse's new
dynamic menu contribution mechanisms, it could be dynamically created
from the ECF Contacts/buddy list. That is, when the user chose
'Share' it could produce a menu hierarchy that corresponded to the
entries in the contacts list (whatever the active ones happened to be
at that moment)...allowing the initiator to choose the target user
for the shared editing session. The Eclipse menu contribution
mechanisms should allow this (i.e. dynamic creation of hierarchical
menus...plus the ability to retarget actions), and ECF allows
programmatic access to the buddy list via
IPresenceContainerAdapter.getRosterManager(). Further, it would be
possible to add such a thing in a new plugin (rather than modifying
the existing editor's code) to increase separation of concerns.
Any thoughts/comments about this approach?
That is, between...perhaps one way on how to setup a 'session for
shared editing' (between 2 participants is initial focus...2+ will
probably be for later).
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