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Re: [e4-dev] Plan wiki for Luna

Frankly speaking guys, I've lost my hope in SWT - I guess this does not come to any suprise who has been following my latest work.

Tom

On 02.07.13 22:40, Doug Schaefer wrote:
:), I wish that worked as often as we hope it did.

But we need to do something to create the buzz that would drive interest
and contribution. Having a dark theme at least gives them hope Eclipse
can look like the cool kids, even if it didn't work everywhere. And who
knows, that might look cool on it's own…

D

From: Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx>>
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Date: Tuesday, 2 July, 2013 4:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Plan wiki for Luna

@Tom, Kai, my hope is that if we make the SWT limitation visible to a
broader user base that more people are interested in fixing them /
contributing to them.


2013/7/2 Tom Schindl <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>

    The big problem with a Dark-Theme is SWT which is not able to theme
    e.g. Buttons, Table-Headers, Menus. I've always said and I'm still
    convinced that the way we apply CSS on widgets is wrong.

    IMHO the CSS-Engine should do the selector calculation to assemble a
    style-string for a widget and SWT has to provide an API
    setCSSStyle(String) to accept this string and transform it to the
    native calls (which e.g. could be css-style stuff once more - e.g.
    IIRC Gtk does have such a feature).

    This way we could even get radial gradients, ... without coming up
    with a Gradient-API and this IMHO dirty image workaround.

    Tom


    On 01.07.13 23:19, Doug Schaefer wrote:

        I know our UX team was hesitant to use a dark theme. It looks
        cool but
        doesn't necessarily help productivity. Would be good to try it
        though
        and see, that's the beauty of switchable themes :).

        *From: *Lars Vogel
        *Sent: *Monday, July 1, 2013 3:55 PM
        *To: *E4 Project developer mailing list
        *Reply To: *E4 Project developer mailing list
        *Subject: *Re: [e4-dev] Plan wiki for Luna



        "Dark Themes" seem to be very attractive to developers, for
        example in
        the popular Sublime editor or the IntelliJ IDE. Would be nice to
        have
        one in Eclipse also (for all the cool developers out there ;-) ).


        2013/7/1 Sopot Çela <sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx>>>


             For details on the chrome theme
        http://marketplace.eclipse.__org/content/eclipse-4-chrome-__theme#.UdHb6flJN1d
        <http://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/eclipse-4-chrome-theme#.UdHb6flJN1d>
        and
        https://github.com/jeeeyul/__eclipse-themes/
        <https://github.com/jeeeyul/eclipse-themes/> You can see that
        there is
             a certain interest in it. Based on
        https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/__show_bug.cgi?id=386470
        <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=386470> we have also
             the blessing of the contributor.





             On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Sopot Çela
        <sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx>
             <mailto:sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sopotcela@xxxxxxxxx>>>
        wrote:

                 I second that, especially the Chrome theme. There is
        widespread
                 consensus that it is a very nice theme.



                 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Lars Vogel
        <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx>
                 <mailto:lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:

                     I think new CSS themes for the IDE would be a nice
        item.
                     Based on an offline discussion with Sopot I suggest
        a theme
                     similar to Chrome and also a Dark Theme. A minimum
        thing
                     would be to reduce the default whitespace used for a
                     PartSashContainer.


                     2013/6/27 Paul Webster
        <pwebster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:pwebster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                     <mailto:pwebster@alumni.__uwaterloo.ca
        <mailto:pwebster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>


                         At today's meeting we're going to talk about our
                         plan/general direction for Luna.  I've put up a
        general
                         draft at
        http://wiki.eclipse.org/__Platform_UI/Plan/4.4
        <http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_UI/Plan/4.4>

                         While we're editing it, please post any
        suggestions you
                         have to the mailing list so we can update the draft
                         (instead of all editing it at once).  After the
        meeting
                         we can update it individually and then review
        it again.

                         Later
                         Paul


                         --
                         Paul Webster
                         Hi floor.  Make me a sammich! - GIR

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