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Re: [e4-dev] Declarative UIs and EMF

Hi Hallvard,

Thanks for trying to install it. Please read my comments below about the installation process.

Regarding GEF :

I use GEF because it provides a clean way to add MVC mechanism to EMF & graphical widgets. To be short, I use only few classes of GEF : AbstractEditPart, AbstractViewer, ... I don't use Draw2D at all, but it is not possible to use gef in this feature configuration without it. I think it should be possible to extract from GEF and keep only what I really use.
Then I will be able to release a lighter version of wazaabi.

Regarding the failure of your installation attempt:
Could you please, tell me which platform are you working on.
I spent only few hours on building features & update site, may be was I too strict with some version constraints ?????

But I just tried again to install it on a freshly downloaded eclipse (The first one I found this evening: eclipse-SDK-3.4.1-win32.zip) under windows XP It works without problems. I did not test yet under other platforms (Linux, MAC OX, ..).

(I tested several times this morning under Windows Vista & XP).
All my previous tests were made under Windows using 3.4 (Ganymede).

Regarding wazaabi contributions to eclipse IDE:

This version contributes in 4 points :
* A view
Window/Show View/Others...->Wazaabi UI Toolkit/Wazaabi Viewer
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* A "new plug-in Wizard/template"
New/Project ---> Plug-in Project

This plug-in is targeted to run with:
Eclipse version: 3.4

Rich Client ApplicationWould you like to create a rich client application : YES
Wazaabi 2.0 RCP application .... (The last item in the list)
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Editor & Wizard for creation & edition of models, just try New/Other... and filtering using "Widgets model" you should see the Widgets model creation Wizard.

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Hallvard Trætteberg a écrit :
I tried installing in Ganymede (original) and everything seemed to go OK, but none of the contributions (template, editor, views) are available.

Installing in Europa required a different GEF than I had, so I stopped there. But I will still take a look at the models.

BTW, what do you use GEF for? Don't you build a "pure" SWT GUI?

Hallvard

Olivier Moïses wrote:
Hi All,

As a contribution to this very interesting discussions about Declarative UIs, I would like to introduce my work: "Wazaabi 2.0" which is now available (in alpha) under EPL. The first (alpha) release is available (as Eclipse update site) at : http://u2.wazaabi.org.

I did not open yet my SVN (essentially because there is some private projects and I need time to move it into a public place :-( ), but source code is included inside the plugins.
Therefor it is possible to observe how it works.

I will be happy to read your remarks/advices/criticisms.


I also wrote a document in my wiki where I explain how to create a first project using the plugin's wizard provided with.
I also explain how to modify widget models under Eclipse IDE.
the document could be find here : http://wiki2.wazaabi.org/index.php?title=InstallationANDTest Please read first the known limitations & issues there is many of them :-( !!

I will also open a bugzilla to be able to track bugs.

In few words Wazaabi 2.0 is based on EMF metamodels, one is abstract and others are concrete. Wazaabi is also fully dynamic. Users changes are reflected into models & model modifications are also refreshed into the view. Nothing prevent us from having (dynamic too) facades for other UI metamodels (like XAML, XUL, ...).

At the moment only one concrete metamodel exists, but I started to write a new one for Nebula project widgets.
I am currently working on stylesheet and databinding.

I will be present next week in ESE, I will be happy to speak with whoever could be interested about it.

Regards,

Olivier Moises
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