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Today's Topics:

    1. Re: Usability issues with RSE and remote FTP storage
       (Oberhuber, Martin)


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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:12:08 +0200
From: "Oberhuber, Martin"<Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [dsdp-tm-dev] Usability issues with RSE and remote FTP
	storage
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Hi,

For (1) code completion, see
http://wiki.eclipse.org/TM_and_RSE_FAQ#Why_is_the_Outline_View_empty_whe
n_editing_a_remote_PHP_or_C_file.3F

Feel free to edit the Wiki to better reflect the question and answer.

For (2) error when saving to the remote, note that if your request were
implemented, it would always mean loss of data since the person who
tried to save the file (but failed to) would lose all changes. Our
assumption is that when you modified a file and tried to save it, your
modifications are more precious than the remote contents and you'd work
on resolving the permission problem rather than just getting remote
contents again.

For a "synchronize cache" operation, see
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=143503


Thanks,
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Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
direct +43.662.457915.85  fax +43.662.457915.6

-----Original Message-----
From: dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:dsdp-tm-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Slava Fomin
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:56 PM
To: dsdp-tm-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dsdp-tm-dev] Usability issues with RSE and remote FTP storage

Hi there.

First of all i'd like to thank you for developing this great product!

I started to use Eclipse few hours ago, before that i was using Komodo
Edit for couple of years.

I'm working with lots of PHP-code located on the remote filesystems,
primarily at FTP sites.

I've installed RSE exactly for this purpose and started to encounter
some odd behavior.

First of all, when i work with php-files, opened from the remote
FTP-server, it doesn't support code-completion.
Practically all php-functions are just gone from the code-suggest
system.
I was able to fix this only by editing "RemoteSystemsTempFiles" project
directory merging it with new "PHP Project" manually.
It doesn't look like a reasonable solution to me - is there a better way
to enable code-completion for php-code?

The second issue is that i open some file from the remote FTP filesystem
e.g. "/index.php".
I update some code. Then i try to save it, but it can't be saved due to
the access permissions of the remote filesystem.
Error message emerged. So far ok, it's expected. I close the tab.
But when i open this file again (double-clicking on it on the remote
explorer) it is not an actual file from the remote filesystem!
It is a local copy updated by me! And i can't find a way to load current
file from the remote location.
The only way is to clear project directory from local content and then
restart the IDE.

When i open file from the remote location i expect to retrieve the
actual version of this file, not some local copy, or at least be asked
what version do i really want to open. Is there a way to disable this
strange caching behavior?

Please advise. Any suggestions will be much appreciated.
Thanks!
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Thanks for the reply Martin, i'll look into the first solution.
Wasn't able to find it in the wiki cause i searched for another topic.

For the second issue - your point of view is absolutely reasonable,
but i think that editor should compare two files: local and remote (by time-stamp and file-size) and if they are different ask user what version of this file he really wants to open.
Right now i can't be sure what version of file i'm actually working with.

I hope these issues will be resolved soon enough, because Eclipse looks like a really great IDE and i can't wait to deliver it's full potential to my web-development projects.


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