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RE: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release Review
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:). Yes. I've been there.
It would be great if we could add heuristics to the Fast indexer to make it
even more accurate. But I'm not sure how much work that would be or where
it's needed most.
Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Chris Recoskie
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:58 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release Review
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> Not to get too deep into the discussion here and now, but IBM's modeling
> tools heavily rely upon the Full Indexer, so we would not want to see it
> deprecated either. The cached headers optimization of the Fast Indexer
> breaks down for a lot of user scenarios, and when you're transforming the
> user's code, you need it to be correct.
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> ===========================
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> Chris Recoskie
> Team Lead, IBM CDT Team
> IBM Toronto
> http://www.eclipse.org/cdt
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> 05/06/2007 02:51 RE: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release
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> Please respond to
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> developers list."
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> Thanks, Rob. Here are a couple of replies:
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> Slide 6/13 ? Great news. I?ll update. And thanks for this!
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> Slide 7 ? I?d love to but we do not have a plan on the books to improve
> the
> API docs, at least one that has any sense of commitment. We keep saying
> we?re going to do it, and it?s time to stop promising it until we actually
> have such a plan.
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> Slide 10 ? I think we need more community feedback before doing that. I
> have a request on the table not to deprecate it. But, as we get more
> feedback on the quality of the Fast indexer in CDT 4, I think we?ll get
> more confidence in deprecating it.
>
> For the API docs and Full Indexer, these will be great topics for the CDT
> Fall Summit ;).
>
> Cheers,
> Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Rob Cecco
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:39 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release Review
>
>
> Doug, here are my comments...moreso for the benefit of others who may read
> this outside the review:
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> Slide 6 & 13 - Localization/Externalization comment, can we change:
> * IBM continuing work on this front, not seen as a priority by
> others
> to
> * Testing for Localization completed
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> Slide 7 - should we provide an outlook as to when we plan to improve the
> API docs?
> Slide 10 - should we make a more definitive statement about deprecating
> the
> Full Indexer...ie. recommend deprecating Full Indexer in next release
>
> thanks,
>
> Robert Cecco
> CDT Development Manager
> IBM Toronto Lab
> 905-413-4367
> cecco@xxxxxxxxxx
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> I can always adjust the slides. But the intent of them is to solicit
> objections to the release. I only get a one minute time slot. But feel
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> to forward me anything.
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> Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
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> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Rob Cecco
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:31 PM
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release Review
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> Doug,
> I missed reviewing this earlier. Do we have any runway to make
> suggestions/changes to this document prior to tomorrow's meeting?
>
> Robert Cecco
> CDT Development Manager
> IBM Toronto Lab
> 905-413-4367
> cecco@xxxxxxxxxx
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> Doug Schaefer <DSchaefer@xxxxxxx>
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> Good point. I guess the fuss is with plug-ins that are copying the jars.
> Sounds like we're good. Thanks, Chris!
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> Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> > Behalf Of Chris Recoskie
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:45 AM
> > To: CDT General developers list.
> > Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release Review
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> > Hmm...
> >
> > Features don't have about files... there is a license.txt instead, which
> > is
> > much lengthier than the about file that a typical plugin gets. It
> spells
> > out that the plugins contained in the feature may be under other
> licenses
> > and that you should refer to the about file for each plugin. The LPG
> > plugin for Orbit already specifies that it's third party software and
> all
> > the license info for it.
> >
> > So, it would seem to me that there's nothing to do here?
> >
> > As far as I can tell the only way you have to update your about.html is
> if
> > you directly take a JAR from Orbit and wrap it in your own plugin. If
> > it's
> > in its own plugin created by Orbit then there's nothing to be done.
> >
> > ===========================
> >
> > Chris Recoskie
> > Team Lead, IBM CDT Team
> > IBM Toronto
> > http://www.eclipse.org/cdt
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> > Doug Schaefer
> > <DSchaefer@xxxxxx
> > m>
> To
> > Sent by: "CDT General developers list."
> > cdt-dev-bounces@e <cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > clipse.org
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> > 30/05/2007 10:18 RE: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release
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> > Not sure. The problem arose since there are a lot of projects reusing
> > Orbit
> > components that haven't updated the about.html files. There is a
> template
> > for about files on the Eclipse legal site.
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> > http://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl/about.php
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> > Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> > Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
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> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Chris Recoskie
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:14 AM
> > > To: CDT General developers list.
> > > Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release Review
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> > > Hmm.... nope.
> > >
> > > Do they have boilerplate legal text for this stuff?
> > >
> > > ===========================
> > >
> > > Chris Recoskie
> > > Team Lead, IBM CDT Team
> > > IBM Toronto
> > > http://www.eclipse.org/cdt
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> > >
> > >
> > > Doug Schaefer
> > > <DSchaefer@xxxxxx
> > > m>
> > To
> > > Sent by: "CDT General developers list."
> > > cdt-dev-bounces@e <cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > clipse.org
> > cc
> > >
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> > Subject
> > > 30/05/2007 10:10 RE: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release
> > > AM Review
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> > > Please respond to
> > > "CDT General
> > > developers list."
> > > <cdt-dev@eclipse.
> > > org>
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> > > Hey Chris, did you list this in the about.html file for the features
> > that
> > > use LPG? This is a requirement they just mentioned on the Europa call.
> > >
> > > Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> > > Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Chris Recoskie
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:46 PM
> > > > To: CDT General developers list.
> > > > Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release Review
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> > > > I think LPG counts as third party software, doesn't it? Even though
> > it
> > > > comes from Orbit?
> > > >
> > > > ===========================
> > > >
> > > > Chris Recoskie
> > > > Team Lead, IBM CDT Team
> > > > IBM Toronto
> > > > http://www.eclipse.org/cdt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Doug Schaefer
> > > > <DSchaefer@xxxxxx
> > > > m>
> > > To
> > > > Sent by: "CDT General developers
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> > > > cdt-dev-bounces@e <cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > clipse.org
> > > cc
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> > > Subject
> > > > 29/05/2007 11:45 RE: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release
> > > > AM Review
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> > > > Please respond to
> > > > "CDT General
> > > > developers list."
> > > > <cdt-dev@eclipse.
> > > > org>
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> > > > BTW, I?ve just added the new features from Chris?s team to the list,
> > > c99,
> > > > upc, and xlc.
> > > >
> > > > Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> > > > Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:35 AM
> > > > To: CDT General developers list.
> > > > Subject: [cdt-dev] CDT 4.0 Release Review
> > > >
> > > > Hey gang, the Release Review for all of the Europa projects is
> > scheduled
> > > > for June 6. I need to get the slides and project log in by tomorrow.
> > > > Please
> > > > take a look at the slides and let me know if there should be any
> > > changes,
> > > > especially the New Feature slides.
> > > >
> > > > http://cdt.eclipse.org/docs/CDT4_Release_Review.pdf
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> > > > Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
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