Re: [cdt-dev] A minimal implementation of a language in Eclipse

["Craig Ugoretz" <craigugoretz@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello,

 

      I want to first thank Beth, Doug, and Mike for their assistance.  I have contacted SAFARI per Beth, also mindful of Doug's comments, and printed out the article series "Create Commercial Quality Eclipse IDEs" that Mike recommended.  I also took a brief look at the list of articles in the Eclipse Articles Corner and downloaded the Power Point presentation "Join the Conversation".  I found that article extremely interesting, and at that time I care to inquire if you can refer me to a means of starting a conversation about the Mozart-Oz integration.  I do have a mailing list set up for the project, but have not put it to use yet (no advertising).         

 

      Another point that the article brought up is that of Eclipse being a "meritocracy", i.e. people are judged by the merit that they bring to a project.  Quite frankly, I am looking for people to lead the Mozart-Oz project.  I am proud to propose it and work towards understanding what needs to be done to implement it, but quite frankly I lack experience (although I am actively seeking it).  I am self conscious posting to mailing lists because I feel like I am masquerading as someone that I am not.  Maybe that feeling will go away in time, but right now I feel uncomfortable and unsure of myself (although your kind responses have provided my with some confidence).  Again, is there a venue where I can have that conversation?

 

                                                               Thanks kindly,

                                                               Craig 

 

On 3/4/07, Mike Kucera <mkucera@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This article series is interesting:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/views/opensource/libraryview.jsp?search_by=Create+commercial-quality+eclipse+ide
There are a bunch of other articles on the IBM developerworks site as well
as the eclipse articles corner: http://www.eclipse.org/articles/index.php

You might also want to look at the source code for the Haskell and OCaml
eclipse plugins: http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/

I wrote a small lambda calculus interpreter in Mozart-Oz when I was in
school, its a very cool language. I wish you the best of luck.


Mike Kucera
IBM CDT Team
IBM Toronto Lab
905-413-3657
mkucera@xxxxxxxxxx




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Hello,

    I am thinking about helping a software community implement their
language in Eclipse.  The name of the language is Mozart-Oz, and its home
page can be found here:   http://www.mozart-oz.org/.  Listed below is an
email that I received from the SWT mailing list when I queried it.  The
responder correspondingly referred me to this mailing list (I think - CDT
may not be the same as CDE, although it too deals with the C language).  My
basic question at this time is:  what must a person need to do produce a
minimal implementation of a language in Eclipse per what Carolyn has
outlined for me?  Can you point me in a direction in regard to what I need
to learn and what type of artifact should be produced first?  Also, if this
not the correct venue for such a discussion, where may I post to?  Thank
you for very much for any assistance you may be able to provide me.

Sincerely,
Craig

Craig,

Here's more info on what SWT is: http://www.eclipse.org/swt/

If you are serious about developing an Eclipse plugin for any programming
language, you might want to start by talking to the CDE people, who
developed the C language eclipse plugin.
Implementing a programming language plugin is a huge undertaking, and you
need to think about many issues: editing with syntax highlighting,
compiling, debugging, etc.
You will have to get to know most of the components in the base of eclipse,
and you may discover that you need new functionality in eclipse itself,
which you may have to provide patches for and present your case for
including them in the base.
Your plugin itself will have to be written in Java - that is the language
for writing eclipse plugins, and that is the language for programming in
SWT.

The CDE newsgroup is: news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.tools.cdt
You need to create a password to use it - this is to discourage spammers.
Try posting there to ask what is involved, and where to start.

Good luck, and hope this helps.
Carolyn
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