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RE: [cdt-dev] Review of the *DT project model and UI

Hi Lars,

  • Project Working Model: I was assuming that for MBS projects, this will be a superset of the MBS model that is accessible from ICProject. Is this true?

Yes

  • Do you expect any major changes to the XML describing MBS builds (apart from hanging it off a different extension point)?

I don’t expect major changes.  Changes are most likely at the top of the model (e.g., projectType, configuration).

  • With regards to the wizard changes. I did not really understand how the "tool-chain" on pp2 relates to the "project type" on pp4. It presumably filters the available project types.

That was my intention, but the project creation part of my UI proposal was not accepted in the review.  The consensus was for non-language specific wizards, and Doug also questioned why the tool-chain selection was so early in the wizard.  More thought is needed for the project creation wizards.

  • With regards to the UI changes, there will be a potential big an impact on automated tests that are driven through UIs. May be worth mentioning.

Good point.

  • What was the outcome of your discussions with regards to CDT the target release? Are you targetting CDT 3.1 or 4.0, or maybe stagger delivery? Note that I am not sure how much we would be able to contribute to CDT 3.1 in this area.

There is no decision on that yet.  It is unlikely that everything could be done for 3.1.

  • On a side-note: it appears that a lot of quite straight-forward re-factoring would have to be performed to migrate to *DT. The problem is that any code that is not visible when the code is re-factored, is not automatically re-factored. As a result a lot of manual refactoring based on compilation errors would need to be performed. Maybe if we could save a refactoring (or a set of refactorings) and apply it later, this would make this easier. Is there any such support in Eclipse?

Not that I’m aware of.  Anyone else have an answer?

Regards, Leo


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Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] Review of the *DT project model and UI

 


Hi,

I am sorry we have been so quiet and not really been involved into the review of the *DT project model. I just had an internal review of the documents and your slides. Generally this all looks very good and I do not have any detailed feedback at this stage, but a few questions:

  • Project Working Model: I was assuming that for MBS projects, this will be a superset of the MBS model that is accessible from ICProject. Is this true?
  • Do you expect any major changes to the XML describing MBS builds (apart from hanging it off a different extension point)?
  • With regards to the wizard changes. I did not really understand how the "tool-chain" on pp2 relates to the "project type" on pp4. It presumably filters the available project types.
  • With regards to the UI changes, there will be a potential big an impact on automated tests that are driven through UIs. May be worth mentioning.
  • What was the outcome of your discussions with regards to CDT the target release? Are you targetting CDT 3.1 or 4.0, or maybe stagger delivery? Note that I am not sure how much we would be able to contribute to CDT 3.1 in this area.
  • On a side-note: it appears that a lot of quite straight-forward re-factoring would have to be performed to migrate to *DT. The problem is that any code that is not visible when the code is re-factored, is not automatically re-factored. As a result a lot of manual refactoring based on compilation errors would need to be performed. Maybe if we could save a refactoring (or a set of refactorings) and apply it later, this would make this easier. Is there any such support in Eclipse?


Best Regards
-- Lars


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