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RE: [cdt-dev] FW: CDT/embedded sessions at EclipseCon
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We can do it either way, but I was worried about making sure that we
didn't get sidetracked and run out of time before everyone got a chance
to present.
If you prefer maybe we could do a brief discussion after each
presentation that we would cut off more or less at a fixed time, and
then open up the remaining time for general discussion.
I'm open to whatever format we think works best for the group.
___________________________________________
Chris Recoskie
Software Designer
IDE Frameworks Group
Texas Instruments, Toronto
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Pierre-Alexandre Masse
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 1:23 PM
> To: cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] FW: CDT/embedded sessions at EclipseCon
>
> Thank you Sebastien,
>
> Chris, you are correct. We (MontaVista) would like to present our
> current work on the remote system framework, its structure, how to use
> it and some examples as well as discuss future directions. The
> presentation should last around 20 minutes. Discussion could be done
> either right after or after all presentations as you prefer.
>
> Pierre-Alexandre
>
>
> Recoskie, Chris wrote:
>
> > Sebastien,
> >
> > This sounds good to me. On behalf of everyone I'd like to thank you
> > for being point man on this.
> >
> > Re: content, Martin and I had planned on doing maybe a 20 minute
> > presentation to kick off discussion for the embedded/remote BOF,
> > outlining in a little more detail the issues we mentioned briefly in
> > our original BOF proposal. I assume that Montavista would want to do
a
> > similar presentation re: remote debugging (Pierre?). From there we'd
> > open things up more for free-form discussion for the remaining time.
> > If anyone else is interested in presenting anything, that is of
course
> > possible as well, so if anyone out there is interested in doing that
> > please let us all know.
> >
> > Re: the regular CDT BOF, I don't think we are planning on
contributing
> > any content directly, although we are definitely going to be there
to
> > participate.
> >
> > ___________________________________________
> >
> > Chris Recoskie
> >
> > Software Designer
> >
> > IDE Frameworks Group
> >
> > Texas Instruments, Toronto
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* cdt-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > *On Behalf Of *Sebastien Marineau
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:14 PM
> > *To:* cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > *Subject:* [cdt-dev] FW: CDT/embedded sessions at EclipseCon
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Concerning the BOFs, I did get information back from the EclipseCon
> > organizers -- please see the email from Bjorn further below. The
> > bottom line is that we have the freedom to organize our own BOFs, as
> > well as set the schedule.
> >
> > To get the ball rolling, our original proposal was to hold 2 BOFs,
as
> > listed below.
> >
> > Eclipse CDT BOF:
> >
> > Meet the experts and discuss the implementation and direction of
CDT.
> > The format will likely be a series of mini-overviews on different
> > aspects of CDT along with open discussions.Intel, IBM, QNX and
Redhat
> > have volunteered to present here. We will also try to get a few
> > customers to present their experiences.
> >
> > Remote development and debugging BOF:
> >
> > TI, HP, Montavista and IBM have expressed strong interest in hosting
> > this. The main focus would be on the specific challenges of using
> > Eclipse and CDT in a host/target configuration, both for development
> > and debugging. This spans the range from deeply embedded (TI) to
> > traditional embedded (Mvista) to the server/mini types of apps (HP
and
> > IBM). I also expect we can get a couple of customers to participate
in
> > this as well.
> >
> > My suggestion is to schedule these for the Tuesday and Wednesday -
the
> > general CDT BOF on Tuesday the 29th, and the remote
> > development/debugging BOF on Wednesday (March 1st).
> >
> > As for the content, I do know that additional companies (e.g.
> > Windriver) have expressed interest in participating, so maybe we can
> > start by having everyone throw out what they'd like to contribute
> > (discussion topics, mini-presentations, demos etc) and we'll collect
> > it into the BOF "program".
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Sebastien
> >
> >
--------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >
> > *From:* Bjorn Freeman-Benson [mailto:bjorn@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:21 PM
> > *To:* 'Dwight Deugo'; sebastien@xxxxxxx
> > *Subject:* RE: CDT/embedded sessions at EclipseCon
> >
> > Sebastien,
> >
> > Please forward this clarification to the CDT mailing list -
thank
> you.
> >
> > I, as the EclipseCon Organizing Chair / Final Arbitrar of All
> > Things EclipseCon, received a forwarded copy of this CDT mailing
> > list and I'd like to take the opportunity to set the record
> > straight / clarify the situation...
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > While working out some issues with my registration I just
got
> > word from Meeting Strategies Worldwide (they're doing the
> > registration etc for EclipseCon) that the decision on which
> > BOFs to go with will be made onsite. Yes, you read that
right
> > - onsite on the day of.
> >
> > This means that if we want to do a BOF we will have to
submit
> > our proposals yet again.
> >
> >
> > Relevant text quoted:
> >
> > **_I have just received word today that all BoF submissions
> > have been neither accepted nor rejected - all BoFs will now
be
> > decided upon onsite at the conference. An email will be sent
> > very soon, to all people who have submitted BoFs detailing
the
> > process for getting their BoF submitted onsite._**
> >
> > It might be worthwhile to not rely on the EclipseCon
> > organizers for this and organize a BOF ourselves - does
anyone
> > from the Bay area got some meeting space they could donate?
;^)
> >
> > We (and by this I mean the Singular We, i.e., me) decided to
> > organize the BOFs at EclipseCon 2005 exactly the same way they
> > were run at EclipseCon 2004. We made this choice because it is
> > organizationally much simpler. Here's how it worked last year
and
> > here's how it's going to work this year:
> >
> > * One goal for BOFs is to facilitate the informal gathering
of
> > similarly interested attendees.
> >
> > * Another goal for BOFs is to make the process of gathering
> > for a BOF as simple as possible for everyone involved.
> >
> > * Another goal is to make best use of the meeting space we
> > have available. Thus we want to provide the larger rooms
to
> > the BOFs with more people and the smaller rooms to those
> > with fewer people.
> >
> > * An explicit negative goal for BOFs is to prevent their
being
> > hijacked by companies using them as advertising pitches.
> > Allowing BOFs to be pre-scheduled has, at other
conferences,
> > allowed them to be taken over by marketing types.
> >
> > So, here's the process - it's very simple and I think you'll
find
> > that it easily meets your needs as well our overall goals:
> >
> > 1. At EclipseCon there is a bulletin board. Beside the
bulletin
> > board are blank sign-up sheets.
> >
> > 2. You arrive at the conference, you go to the bulletin
board,
> > you take a sign-up sheet and write "CDT" in the title box.
> > You thumb tack it on the bulletin board.
> >
> > 3. During the day, interested people sign up on the sheets on
> > the board for the BOFs they are interested in.
> >
> > 4. At 5pm, the organizers (that's me or one of the other
> > volunteers) looks at the attendance of each of the BOFs on
> > the board and assigns them to rooms by writing, in big
> > letters, the room name (e.g., Seaside B) on the page.
> >
> > 5. After enjoying the free food at the reception that
evening,
> > people wander by the bulletin board to learn which room
> > their BOF is assigned to.
> >
> > This process meets the goals:
> >
> > * People can decided to meet in a BOF in advance or at the
> > last minute. If you want to schedule it in advance, simple
> > agree amongst all your colleagues that you are going to
have
> > a BOF on, say, Tuesday night. Put up a sign-up sheet,
> > sign-up, and get assigned a room. The BOF I'm involved in
> > (Language Toolkits and Universal IDEs) is doing exactly
that
> > - see the announcement that Chris Laffra posted to the
> > eclipse.eclipsecon newsgroup.
> >
> > * Simple physical sheets of paper are easy. Without having
to
> > write any complex programs, they allow us to easily
allocate
> > rooms by size and they are easy for the people attending
the
> > conference to sign up on and to read.
> >
> > * Allocating rooms at 5pm the day-of allows us to make the
> > best use of space. There are plenty of rooms, but some of
> > them are very small and I'd hate to have to pre-guess the
> > size of each BOF. I know I don't know whether CDT or WTP
is
> > going to draw a larger crowd. This way we will know.
> >
> > * Not pre-scheduling BOFs prevents vendors from using them
as
> > advertising rooms because they can't say "come by room X
at
> > time Y to hear us talk about product Z". It allows you and
> > your colleagues to do so, because you are collectively
> > agreeing to meet, but it prevents sales pitches because in
> > those cases there is no collective agreement - it's a
> > one-way communication.
> >
> > So, by all means, please schedule a CDT BOF. I look forward to
> > your having a really great time at the conference, and I
apologize
> > if this mechanism was not explained to you before. Mea culpa...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Bjorn Freeman-Benson
> >
> > EclipseCon Organizing Chair
> >
>
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