Re: [cdt-dev] Heads-up to managed build developers

[Sean Evoy <sevoy@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Mike,
I have been playing around with your
enhancement and I like it a lot! I have added in a delete key event handler
for the list widget so the user can delete from the keyboard. I have also
added a snippet of code to try and force the list widget to be no wider
than the title bar so all the buttons are displayed, even if the list entry
is wider than the screen.  These are tiny changes and I hope you are
OK with them.

There are two big ones I would like
to clear with you, though. In the case of the 'Add' button event handler,
I would like to reuse the entry widget that I recently added to the old
list editor. It is a basic entry widget that shows a Browse button if the
option type is a file or dir.

That gives the user a chance to hand-enter
a value and does not force them to use a browser. Let me know if
this is going to effect your product at all.

The second major change is that I would
like to use the information in the option to set the browse type of the
field editor. That is the motivation behind my last schema change and it
allows me to prompt for files (for a library or object file list), paths
(for includes and lib directories), or normal old text strings for symbols
and misc. Again, can you see any negative impact for your team if I make
that change?

All the best, 

Sean Evoy
Rational Software - IBM Software Group
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

"Mike Charls" <mcharls@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Sean:
 
We included in the icons in the zip file.
 We created a directory for them called "org.eclipse.cdt.managedbuilder.ui/icons/full/list".

 
 
Regards,
 
Mike Charls
BitMethods, Inc.
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Mike, 
The Eclipse patch mechanism does not pick up GIFs (don't ask me how I know
this). Could you send me the new gifs you introduced in a zip file? Thanks.

Sean Evoy
Rational Software - IBM Software Group
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Hi Sean, 
  
Attached is the patch for the Build Manager Properties Page File List Buttons.
  
  
Please let me know if you have any questions. 
  
Regards, 
  
Mike Charls 
BitMethods, Inc. 
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That looks very sharp. Submit it and I will commit it.

Sean Evoy
Rational Software - IBM Software Group
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

"Mike Charls" <mcharls@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Sean: 
 
Adding the browseType attribute is fine with us. 
 
one more thing (now that you are looking at this area)...  the Add,
Remove, Move Up and Move Down buttons are always off the screen for the
File items.  They are too far to the right, so the user always needs
to scroll over see the buttons.  This is a minor point, but still
a pain for the end-user. 
 
We changed this in our application to place the buttons at the top of the
file list (like a toolbar).  Attached is a screen snapshot.  This
approach is similar to how Windows handles File lists.  
 
We use these file list buttons for the include Directories, Symbols, Libraries,
and Other Options categories in the Build manager properties.  
 
If you would like to use this approach for the user interface, we can send
you a patch. 
 
Regards, 
 
Mike Charls 
BitMethods, Inc. 
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Hi Guys, 
I just wanted to bounce a couple of ideas off the people who are looking
at, and working on, the managed build system. First, there has been an
endless stream of requests to put a browse button on path or file options.
Since an IOption does not know what type of list it contains, I am proposing
a new enumerated attribute in the option schema called "browseType".
It will contain "none", "file", or "directory"
so the UI can properly decide whether to display a browse button or not.
So far, the solution does not break existing manifest definitions and the
UI is working properly. I would like to know if anyone has a problem with
this solution or if it tramples on something you have already done.

What this does not solve is the problem where the SWT/JFace widgets answer
the file location or path location in the OS-appropriate format but the
tools require these specifications in a different format. For example,
imagine a cross-compiler hosted on Win32 not liking C:\foo\include, which
is what we get back from the browse dialog. This might require some further
tweaking of the toolchain model to get more information about the file
system type the hosted tools prefer to use. Notice how studiously I am
avoiding the term "target model" :-) 

The window to propose alternatives is small, so if you have any strong
opinions on this, please let me know asap. 

Sean Evoy
Rational Software - IBM Software Group
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada