Re: [buckminster-dev] some buckminster questions

[Kenneth Ölwing <kenneth@xxxxxxxxx>]

Knut,

True! Actually, I today made some changes to the 'download' page on M2 - 
that's as far as it's gone until now. First, a word of caution - we 
apparently mistakenly uploaded something *also* called M2 before the 'real' 
M2 - oops. So it's possible that you happen to have that one...and that 
shouldn't work with the dogfooding example on the download page...

Very briefly, big changes are the new concept of using a 'cquery' (more 
succinctly captures all information in one location - path/URL etc, plus 
information to pre-answer possible decision points). Also, a whole set of 
builder integration, and finally a lot of work done with the headless stuff, 
console view integrations etc.

Yes, assuming you let buck make the checkout for you, you'll get the 
required jars inserted into the correct location into core (a part of what 
we call the 'assembly build step') - try the new dogfooding instructions to 
get it set up. We eventually want to provide a process help to 'upgrade' a 
current checkout, but that is not yet possible.

The new text you find (cspec/aspec) is talking about new stuff being 
designed - in short, we've realised that the 'target' thing we've been 
having so far is far from enough.
Instead we want to provide a whole new concept here with 'actions', 
'purposes' etc which will tie in with builders (and hence, the builder 
mechanism we've put in now to interface with Eclipse build mechanism is also 
going to be reworked to support both pure Eclipse, but also the 'action' 
thinking).

Ada95? Sounds cool although I don't know much about it :-). Where are you 
located? Anyway - no, I hope Buckminster would work equally well in your 
case.

ken1

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Knut Wannheden" <knut.wannheden@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Buckminster developer discussions" <buckminster-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:51 PM
Subject: [buckminster-dev] some buckminster questions


Hi all,

I noticed that you released a second milestone for Buckminster not too
long ago. Congratulations! Is there an announcement for it somewhere
to read about the changes?

I try to every once in a while checkout the CVS HEAD of Buckminster
into my Eclipse workspace. Lately I had some problems building the
org.eclipse.buckminster.core project. It requires jars/tada-sax.jar
and jars/log4j.jar on the classpath. Will Buckminster during a build
download these automatically for me? Or do I have to download these
manually?

In the org.eclipse.buckminster project I found an HTML userguide for
Buckminster (which is not the same one which gets installed with the
downloaded plugins). There I read some interesting things about CSpecs
but I was a little bit confused about the terminology used. It doesn't
quite seem to align with what I found in other documents and the code.
For instance this userguide mentions usages and purposes of CSpecs,
which I didn't find anywhere else.

I'd like to try to use Buckminster for our inhouse developed build
tool which is actually in many ways quite similar to the Eclipse build
system. Although we have what I think you in Buckminster call targeted
dependencies and builds. That is essential to us so we haven't been
able to integrate with Eclipse just yet. I'm hoping Buckminster will
provide the required glue :-) Maybe I should also mention that we
build Ada95 code. Although I haven't seen anything in Buckminster that
would conflict with that.

Regards,

--knut
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