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Hi Bob,
I agree with you that a web based designer is not what enterprise
developers are looking for. It is nice for marketing but not for
daily hard work.
For example we (Imixs) are implementing complex business processes
for our customers (also large companies like BMW). We use the
BPMN2 Modeller to describe business processes but also to describe
execution rules. And this has to do mainly with Java and Web
Development. So typically when we work on an issue we see three
different aspects in application development
- Interfaces - Java Editors/Debuggers
- Design - Web Editors / CSS Editors / _javascript_ Editors
- Modelling - BPMN2 Modeller
All the resulting artifacts need to be managed as one target
build. And we need even deploy these artifacts together into
productive environments.
Only Eclipse allows me to setup my IDE in a way where I can
combine these different activities with different plugins and
setups in the way I like.
I know there is a web based bpmn modeling tooling project. But
this did not solve my requirements to enterprise development. This
is my personal opinion.
best regards
Ralph
On 04.03.2016 00:56, Bob Brodt wrote:
Hi
all,
As
you may or may not know, the BPMN2 Modeler is sponsored by
JBoss/Red Hat and was originally developed as the primary BPM
process editor for Eclipse tooling for Drools/jBPM (which is
being rebranded as BRMS/BPMS and/or BxMS, B*MS, etc.) The
long-range plan for the jBPM product is to migrate existing
developers to use the Web Tooling (a.k.a. KIE Workbench) editors within
the Eclipse IDE. How, when and if this is going to work is
still a bit of a mystery but suffice it to say that the plan
is to deprecate the BPMN2 Modeler native Eclipse plug-in, in
favor of "Web Designer" which is the browser-based BPM process
editor offered by KIE Workbench.
My
personal feelings aside, I'm not convinced that Web Designer
is the best choice for a native Eclipse BPM process
development tool, and I'm trying to build a case to present to
my Product Manager, arguing against discontinuing development
of the BPMN2 Modeler project. Since Red Hat is the industry
leader in Open Source Software, we do listen to you the
community members when it comes to these kinds of decisions.
Please
reply to this mailing list with your
opinions/experiences/recommendations.
Thanks,
"The
management"
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