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Re: [bpel-dev] The lack of junit tests
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Hi David,
I completely agree with you at this point. It's very difficult to
continue development when there are no unit tests and you just can't
say whether you're breaking something with your changes.
Due to lack of time currently I've continued that bad practice and
haven't written any unit-tests, but I know that I need to write some
and I have time frame in my schedule to write them a bit later.
Can you provide some examples of your GUI unit tests?
Thanks,
Dennis
2007/10/30, David Black <david.black@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Thanks for the reply. In any editor (we have two GEF/GMF editors in Cape
> Clear Studio), there is actually a lot of code which is is unit-testable
> independently of the UI. And, as it happens, we have many junit tests which
> also directly test our GUIs. Yes, TPTP is not an option for something like
> this.
>
> Certainly it seems to me that the first thing we're going to have to do - if
> we move forward with our plans to adopt this editor - is develop and
> contribute tests. But what concerns me is that no one else appears to be
> doing so.
>
> -David
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bpel-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bpel-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Simon D Moser
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:29 PM
> > To: BPEL Designer project developer discussions.
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> > Subject: Re: [bpel-dev] The lack of junit tests
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> > you're right - at the current moment the editor is more
> > unstable since the reconciliation work betweem DOM and EMF is
> > going on. This was announced several weeks ago on this list,
> > and also the fact that in case you want to get a stable
> > version you should rather stay on the M3 build.
> > Second, as far as the automated JUnits goes, I agree with
> > you. We should have them, they have been planned for some
> > time, but as you probably know there is not a very good way
> > of doing automated GUI JUnits as soon as GEF is involved.
> > Even TPTP etc. handles this with ... well ... deficiencies
> > ;-) I agree that for the model reconcilitation we could get
> > better here. We could automate regular JUnits for that
> > special case - however, limited time and resources have been
> > holding us back here.
> > Feel free to contribute some test cases if you want - we'd
> > really like to have some!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Simon
> >
> > Simon Moser, M.Eng.
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> > Hi,
> >
> > We're in the process of finalising our plans to adopt and
> > integrate the BPEL 2.0 editor into our product.
> >
> > One of things which really concerns me is the apparent total
> > lack of junit tests - unless I'm missing something? I see no
> > test plugins, nor test code in the functional plugins.
> >
> > I checked out HEAD a few hours ago and I've been playing
> > around with it.
> > The
> > editor seems incredibly unstable. Right now I cannot save any
> > BPEL file I create. This may be related to the work around
> > reconciliation between the EMF models and the XML - I
> > understand that the serialization is done via the XML DOM /
> > SSE (is this understanding correct?). This is the kind of
> > thing which can and really (IMHO) must be accompanied by junit tests.
> >
> > What is the policy of the BPEL Designer project regarding
> > automated tests?
> >
> > thanks
> > David Black
> >
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