Hi JD, First, thanks for your interest in the BIRT Community. For users of BIRT, the BIRT newsgroup/forum is the place where all the action happens. You can access it here: http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/f/2/ As you will see, this is a very active forum (one of the most active in the Eclipse ecosystem). Community members and the BIRT team try to respond as quickly as possible to questions in that forum. When a question comes in on the mailing lists, it is typically a user question and we (usually myself) re-direct the poster to the forum. I occasionally miss one, which is probably what happened to the one on Jan 8. Hopefully that person posted to the forum anyway. FWIW, some users also post to other areas such as Stack Overflow, BIRT-Exchange and other community forums – we try to monitor those as well and post responses there when questions come up. For developers of BIRT, the mailing lists are not used much for development discussions – more as a news channel for builds. Any technical discussion happens in the context of specific Bugzilla items when needed. Hope this helps. Paul. From: birt-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:birt-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph D Carroll Jr
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 7:52 AM
To: BIRT PMC communications (including coordination, announcements, and Group discussions)
Subject: Re: [birt-pmc] Separate bug tracker? I am just a casual observer here, but this morning I noticed an email in my inbox from birt-dev. I have filters setup for all of the different lists I have subscribed to, and my first thought was why is that in my inbox and why haven't I had more of these. Since we are on the subject of 'open & transparent' I went to the birt-dev and birt-charting-dev mail archives [1] & [2]. There have been 16 different threads with 18 total emails since Jan 1 on birt-dev and 1 thread with only the single email on birt-charting-dev. I should note that the single email on birt-charting-dev was a question posted by a user which has yet to be responded to (the question was posted on Jan 8). In birt-dev only 2 of the 16 threads are related to development topics, the rest are all along the lines of "Please check out stable build 'X'...". I also noticed that there are no birt-user email lists, which makes this (the lack of emails) even more puzzling concerning. I am only now starting to look into BIRT for use in my project, so maybe everyone knows to use the forums instead of the mail lists. I have no way of knowing if there are other (internal) lists the birt developers use, but something tells me there is more collaboration going on somewhere. If there is an internal email list (which I think is completely reasonable), it would be appropriate to have the birt-dev as a member or at the very least the internal list a member of birt-dev. Just something that caught my attention. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Jesse Weinstein <jesse.weinstein@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Thank you for the reply. Regarding the repo syncing – it’s now 10 days out-of-date. That’s more than a week. And (unless you are doing something very strange with your git set-up), syncing, while manual, requires nothing more than running a single command: “git push”. I’m puzzled as to why that would be so difficult. Wayne, Jesse, In addition to the testing that happens in the community for open source BIRT, we also do a lot of testing of BIRT in the context of our commercial products. As we encounter issues in our commercial products we track these in our commercial bug tracking system. In some cases, we then narrow the bug down to an issue in the open source code base – in which case, two things happen: 1. We open a bug in Eclipse Bugzilla to ensure the issue is visible to the community. 2. We fix the bug in the open source code base. For #2, the developer may sometimes reference the commercial bug number in the code (that is what the Txxxxxx numbers are). They should reference the Bugzilla number and we will remind them to do so. Wayne, Regarding the repository syncing, as Wenfeng indicated in one of the emails last week we plan to move back to direct checkins to the Eclipse git. However, we do not want to make that switch mid-stream for our Kepler development. In the interim, we are now syncing once a week. We realize that ideally it would be more frequently but this is currently a manual process. Paul. I would very much like an answer to this question.
Also... the repository is now six days out of date. I understand that making changes takes time. While you are sorting out how, exactly, you're going to change the way BIRT does things, you're going to need to do something stopgap to keep the repository at least sort-of up-to-date.
Thanks,
Wayne On 04/29/2013 03:13 PM, Wayne Beaton wrote: I noticed the "Txxxx" numbers some time ago. I swear that I posted a question about them on a bug, but I can't find it now.
What does the "T56886" in "[BZ]TimeZone is not passed to ScriptContext(T56886)" mean?
Wayne On 04/29/2013 01:42 PM, Jesse Weinstein wrote: <snip> Regarding the 2nd point, about public bug reports – here are some examples of commit messages that appear to refer to a private, non-Eclipse-hosted bug tracking system: https://git.eclipse.org/c/birt/org.eclipse.birt.git/commit/?id=956ee36d507d5ce4a32e5a35adf15fb6355301a8 [BZ]TimeZone is not passed to ScriptContext(T56886) https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=56886 is a Platform bug closed in 2006. While the actual bugzilla entry is https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=399055 https://git.eclipse.org/c/birt/org.eclipse.birt.git/commit/?id=b6947ee83cbe29242645b36670b211f697b4849a Fix NPE is thrown out when insert chart into list #59066 https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=59066 is a JDT duplicate closed in 2004. There are many other instances visible in https://git.eclipse.org/c/birt/org.eclipse.birt.git/log/
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