Hello all,
we would also like to avoid shipping all the SDKs to our users.
So we share the opinon of Bosch that two packages would most useful, one
for automotive users, and one for automotive tool developers.
If there was just one package, it should in our opinion be the package for
users, because that's where the compatibility must be ensured.
And while it would be possible to create the other package on our own, it
would be wasted effort if everybody did the same thing.
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From: "Burkhardt Martin (CDG-SMT/EMT6)"
<Martin.Burkhardt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Automotive Industry Working Group <auto-iwg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 26.03.2012 14:55
Subject: Re: [auto-iwg] Eclipse IDE for Automotive Software Developers
Sent by: auto-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
Hallo Stephan, Hello All,
regarding 3/ in the past we practiced to maintain two variants of our local
Eclipse platform:
SDK) With SDK and help for all packages for use by Eclipse component
developers.
RT) (runtime) Without SDK and without help for usage in build and
deployment.
It would be most useful for Bosch to have both variants available.
Otherwise we might opt for creating the other variant by ourselves with the
risk of inconsistencies (and always requiring additional efforts).
>From our point of view a compromise, where the sdk is only added to a few
packages won't really help us. We need all or nothing depending on the
purpose, for what we use the distribution.
Any comments welcome.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
Martin Burkhardt
Robert Bosch GmbH
Cross Divisional Group - Software, Methods and Tools, Engineering Methods
and Tools IDE (CDG-SMT/EMT6)
Postfach 30 02 40
70442 Stuttgart
GERMANY
www.bosch.com
Tel. ++49 (711) 811 - 461 36
Sitz: Stuttgart, Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 14000;
Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Hermann Scholl; Geschäftsführung: Franz
Fehrenbach, Siegfried Dais;
Stefan Asenkerschbaumer, Bernd Bohr, Rudolf Colm, Volkmar Denner, Christoph
Kübel, Uwe Raschke,
Wolf-Henning Scheider, Werner Struth, Peter Tyroller
3/ Reduce the package size
Currently, we are at 329MB which makes the automotive package
the biggest among all others. The reason is that we have
chosen to include the SDKs of nearly all components (which
include their sources and developer documentation) instead of
taking only the runtimes. While this makes sense in target
platforms used by automotive tool developers it makes less
sense in Eclipse installations used by automotive software
developers. The former need the sources and documentation so
that they can better develop their own tool plug-ins but the
latter don't because they usually do not aim at extending
Eclipse but just use it to work on other things (embedded ECU
oftware). For this reason Eclipse packages do normally not
include any SDKs (but just runtimes) or the SDKs of some
selected components only (e.g., Eclipse Modeling Tools).
To fix this issue, I'd like to ask you to share your opinion
regarding this aspect. The question is, do we need any SDKs
in the Eclipse IDE for Automotive Software Developers or no
such at all? If so, for which components of the current
package definition [2] would you like to have sources and
developer documentation at hand?
My idea is to collect you opinions, document them on the wiki
page, and submit our changes to the EPP project for the Juno
M7 milestone. According to the Juno simultaneous release plan
[3] we have until May 11 to come to a reasonable conclusion.
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