Re: [aspectj-dev] AJ 5 @AJ and aspectOf

["Wes Isberg" <wes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Alex, I understood your message, but suggested to you privately 
that others might not.  Here's my message to you, unredacted:

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[to you only]

I suspect your message is not understandable to most people.

E.g., what is "APT"? "@AJ aspect"?  Why '*' in "Aspect*s*."?
Since when do we do "source gen"?  And what's the user benefit?

It might be understandable to the other developers with whom
you've had private discussions; it's up to you whether you want
to include others.
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I do think it's fair to assume people have read the developers'
notebook and understand Java 5 concepts; I mainly pointed out 
your shorthand terms that actually aren't used or discussed there.  
(Yes, aspectj-dev is clearly the place for a well-framed discussion.)

Wes

> ------------Original Message------------
> From: Alexandre Vasseur <avasseur@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: aspectj-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tue, Mar-22-2005 8:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [aspectj-dev] AJ 5 @AJ and aspectOf
>
> Since Wes seems to be suprised by my first post let me explain some
> 
> - APT = Annotation Processor Tool = see Java 5 doc, I am expect
> aspectj-dev are familiar with most of the concepts around Java 5 (be
> it semantics or tools around, like APT)
> 
> - @AJ aspect = I assume ones has read the AspectJ 5 developper
> notebook. The @AJ aspect is the code name for the annotation style
> syntax
> 
> - I usually use "*" (star) to emphasys on something like *that*, since
> I don't write html emails and uses Bold style.
> 
> - we may do code gen if we need to do it. That s why I am discussing
> that on the aspectj-dev. Raise your hand / ask question if you think
> that s odd.
> APT can actually be used for much more f.e. pointcut syntax checking
> for @AJ aspect f.e.
> It s is good to think about what we can do with it, especially as
> regards @AJ aspects.
> 
> - the user benefit is as I describe: be able to use the aspectOf() API
> with its @AJ aspect without requiring him to compile them with ajc and
> further use them as a binary form (in which there is the aspectOf()
> method)
> 
> Wes, I had no previous private discussion on that, and precisely wants
> to start the discussion. Let me know if there is a better place for
> this kind of discussion.
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:07:48 -0800, Wes Isberg <wes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > E.g., what is "APT"? "@AJ aspect"?  Why '*' in "Aspect*s*."?
> > Since when do we do "source gen"?  And what's the user benefit?
> > 
> > 
> > Wes
> > 
> > > ------------Original Message------------
> > > From: Alexandre Vasseur <avasseur@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: aspectj-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Tue, Mar-22-2005 7:31 AM
> > > Subject: [aspectj-dev] AJ 5 @AJ and aspectOf
> > >
> > > I have started to have a look at APT.
> > > This one could easily be used to handle aspectOf() for @AJ aspect.
> > >
> > > Right now aspectOf is introduced to the @AJ aspect (compile time 
> with
> > > ajc or LTW), and the user can use an API like
> > > Aspect*s*.aspectOf(MyAspect.class)
> > > Aspect*s*.aspectOf(MyAspect.class, Object perX instance)
> > > etc that behaves reflectively
> > >
> > > APT could be used to generated (source gen) for each @AJ aspect
> > > MyAspect a class
> > > MyAspectFactory that contains the static aspectOf method and 
> binding /
> > > unbinding methods.
> > > The user could then easily invoke MyAspect 
> MyAspectFactory.aspectOf()
> > > in his code, without any performance drawback, without beeing 
> required
> > > to expose its aspect to LTW or ajc compilation and use them as 
> binary
> > > form.
> > >
> > > thoughts ?
> > > Alex
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> > >
> > 
> >
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