Bug 177497 - Bug status explanation page does not mention RESOLVED REMIND
Summary: Bug status explanation page does not mention RESOLVED REMIND
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Community
Classification: Eclipse Foundation
Component: Bugzilla (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified   Edit
Hardware: PC All
: P3 normal (vote)
Target Milestone: ---   Edit
Assignee: Eclipse Webmaster CLA
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Reported: 2007-03-15 03:53 EDT by Maxime Daniel CLA
Modified: 2007-04-19 12:00 EDT (History)
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Description Maxime Daniel CLA 2007-03-15 03:53:23 EDT
While http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/bugzilla-use.php gives a clue of the effect to which some projects use the WONTFIX status, https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status, which provides an otherwise neat recapitulative table of bugs status, does not mention WONTFIX at all. 
This confuses some users (see comment #9 of bug 154984), the RESOLVED part of 'RESOLVED REMIND' making them believe that we don't want to investigate further (while we ask them to help us investigate further).
Comment 1 Maxime Daniel CLA 2007-03-15 04:43:39 EDT
Frédéric points out to me that I mistakenly used WONTFIX instead of REMIND... Apologies to all, and thx to Fred.

While http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/bugzilla-use.php gives a clue
of the effect to which some projects use the 'RESOLVED REMIND' status,
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status, which provides an
otherwise neat recapitulative table of bugs status, does not mention REMIND at
all.
This confuses some users (see comment #9 of bug 154984), the RESOLVED part of
'RESOLVED REMIND' making them believe that we don't want to investigate further
(while we ask them to help us investigate further).
Comment 2 Denis Roy CLA 2007-03-15 09:47:31 EDT
Interesting. New bugzilla installations >= 3.0 (not yet released) won't have RESOLVED/LATER and RESOLVED/REMIND, as they are considered "bad":

    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13534

Also, this implemented feature will allow us to customize the resolutions:
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94534


I think we'll eventually lose RESOLVE/REMIND and maybe RESOLVE/LATER.
Comment 3 Maxime Daniel CLA 2007-03-15 10:09:31 EDT
Then we'll need to fix our processes. Copying Philippe to that effect.
Comment 4 Denis Roy CLA 2007-03-15 10:17:06 EDT
(In reply to comment #3)
> Then we'll need to fix our processes. Copying Philippe to that effect.
> 

I suggest you wait before changing any processes.  I believe that Bugzilla 3.0, when released, will allow us to customize the statuses and the resolutions.  What I'd suggest we do, when the time comes, is that we revist the Bugzilla workflow and adjust our statuses/resolutions accordingly.

I'm simply documenting the Mozilla bugs here for completeness.

This bug is also related to bug 157642.

In the interim, I agree that we can define REMIND on our pages... But that definition may vary from one project to the next.  Any suggestions?
Comment 5 Denis Roy CLA 2007-03-15 10:17:49 EDT
Reassigning to community/bugzilla
Comment 6 Ismael Juma CLA 2007-03-16 11:41:03 EDT
Personally, I have always believed the Target Milestone field was more appropriate for LATER than the Resolution field (like suggested in the mozilla.org bug).
Comment 7 Denis Roy CLA 2007-04-18 14:18:09 EDT
I've added descriptions of those resolutions to https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status
Comment 8 Maxime Daniel CLA 2007-04-19 01:24:56 EDT
Denis, LATER and REMIND are deprecated for sure (after some debate, to say the least). But I thought that we as a community agreed that the teams had some time to adjust - more precisely, that we would not have to dig for bugs matching those until 3.3 is released. The description you posted is improved in the sense it is more exhaustive, citing the formerly missing status, but I do not quite see the benefit to the user, since it gives her no clue what the meaning of the status could be.
Would it be possible to add more information, along the following lines:
- Some projects/teams used to move peculiar bugs to RESOLVED REMIND instead of marking them with the needinfo keyword (which means asking more information from the reporter) or decreasing their priority (which means postponing work in favor of other bugs). Such bugs are not considered as resolved.
- Some projects/teams used to move peculiar bugs to RESOLVED LATER instead of decreasing their priority. Such bugs are not considered as resolved.
Comment 9 Denis Roy CLA 2007-04-19 11:21:15 EDT
I wasn't quite sure what teams were using them for, so thanks for the verbiage.  I've updated the page.
Comment 10 Maxime Daniel CLA 2007-04-19 12:00:00 EDT
Thanks a lot.