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Re: [virgo-dev] Virgo release branding

Hey!

I think we should quickly discuss the planned release cycles for the tooling part of Virgo. Since our long-term plan is to contribute some parts of the tooling to libra and have the virgo-specific parts built on top of libra, we maybe should think about coordinating the tooling releases with libra? (they ship with the Eclipse release train)

I am not sure whether having a totally separate release cycle from libra makes sense or not. We could do that, but it could make more sense to have common releases.

What do you think?

Cheers,
-Martin




On 18.06.11 13:46, ÐÐÑÐÑÐÐÐ ÐÐÐÑÐÐÑÐÐÐÐ wrote:
After spending some time going through the suggestions i think my
preferences lean mostly toward the "birds", "elements" and "colours".

To be more specific my favourite is the "colours" list :-)

On Jun 17, 2011 5:14 PM, "Glyn Normington" <gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
 > Kudos to Steve Powell for coming up with the idea. He also suggests
not being too "grand" near the start.
 >
 > e.g. Birds: Argus, Bantam, Canary, ...
 >
 > Some more ideas if needed...
 >
 > Elements: Antimony, Beryllium, Carbon, ...
 > Cars: Avant, Boxter, Carrera, ...
 > Trees: Alder, Birch, Cedar, ...
 > Mountains: Altai, Balkan, Cascade, ...
 > Colours: Azure, Bisque, Cerise, ...
 > Grapes: Aramon, Bovale, Centurian, ...
 > Islands: Aero, Batan, Capri, ...
 > Stars: Algol, Betelgeuse, Cygnus, ...
 >
 > Any more ideas or preferences?
 >
 > Regards,
 > Glyn
 >
 > On 15 Jun 2011, at 11:22, Kapukaranov, Borislav wrote:
 >
 >> What a great idea!
 >> Release branding will certainly add a nice touch to the personality
and popularity of a release.
 >>
 >> Weâll have to find an area that has good variety of names and wonât
clash with Eclipseâs branding.
 >> Animals are obviously good because of the great variety â we can
take birds for example, obviously cats are already taken J
 >> A bird with âAâ is the Great Argus, which is also known as Phoenix
in some Asian areas, which is kind of symbolic considering the dm server
and Virgo relation. J
 >>
 >> Anyway there surely are many more options and it would be
interesting to see other suggestions.
 >>
 >> Best Regards
 >> Bobby
 >>
 >> From: virgo-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:virgo-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:virgo-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:virgo-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Glyn Normington
 >> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:38 PM
 >> To: Virgo Project
 >> Subject: [virgo-dev] Virgo release branding
 >>
 >> Past releases of Virgo have consisted of two or three deliverables
all at the same version number. This is likely to be true for the next
release.
 >>
 >> However, in the future, we anticipate releasing runtime and tooling
together, a bit like a mini release train. At that point, not all the
deliverables will have the same version number. In fact, we want the
freedom to be able to rev the runtime and tooling independently of each
other. So in the future, release branding may become important.
 >>
 >> Release branding is also a useful marketing device. If we chose the
right release brands, they could create some "buzz" in the community. It
is also handy for future releases so we can refer to them before we've
settled on the version numbers.
 >>
 >> Would it therefore make sense to adopt branding for the 3.0 release
so that the community gets used to a release brand?
 >>
 >> Examples of release branding are Eclipse and Ubuntu with its
alphabetically sequenced release brands (based on animals in the case of
Ubuntu), Mac OS (more animals).
 >>
 >> Counter-examples are Java (unless "Java 6" is counted as a release
brand for 1.6) and Tomcat.
 >>
 >> I guess a Virgo release brand would get a little messy if and when
Virgo joins the Eclipse release train as both brands would then apply to
the release. But we would expect also to release independently of the
release train, so there would be quite a confusing sequence.
 >>
 >> An alternative to release branding is just to stick with the kernel
version number as the "headline" version for a release with other
components such as tooling free to have a different version number.
 >>
 >> What do you think? If you favour release branding, do you have
suggestions for the actual brands?
 >>
 >> Regards,
 >> Glyn
 >>
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