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Re: [science-iwg] Science Top Level Project draft
Hi Jay,

Thanks for the revisions.

From: "Jay Jay Billings" <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Science Industry Working Group" <science-iwg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 4:27:02 AM
Subject: Re: [science-iwg] Science Top Level Project draft
Tobias, everyone,

Here is an updated version with most of your changes worked in one way or the other. Please let me know what you think. Two things:
*BSD is already mentioned next to EDL.
*Exporting cryptographic algorithms is a violation of US export control laws. So we need to explicitly say that we will not work on cryptography or its applications.
OK... Adding a sentence that provides the background (along 'In order to comply with ..., ') may be useful.

Best,
Tobias
Doing compression or anonymization are separate subjects, regardless of the origins of the techniques.

Jay

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Jay Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Tobias,

Good suggestions. I'll work them in.

Jay

On Mar 14, 2016 17:24, "Tobias Verbeke" <tobias.verbeke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
L.S.

Some comments on the Science TLP draft:

- modeling and simulation is only one way to collect (in this case generate) and analyze scientific data (be it in the physical or social sciences); this could be broadened to collection and analysis of sample survey data and experimental data
- maybe add economics to the social sciences ?
- tools and libraries for statistics, machine learning, artificial intelligence, data mining, text mining
- data structures should not be limited to 3D; we want to live in more dimensions
- visualization: a detail, but 4D is not uncommon (including e.g. time dimension)
- I don't understand why we should explicitly exclude (the mathematics of) cryptography; certain anonymization or privacy-protecting procedures as applied to scientific data can use cryptographic techniques
- I would use Revised BSD or 3-clause BSD next to (or rather than) EDL; I understand the inclination to use EDL, but the name is not widely known (e.g. Wikipedia knows EPL but not EDL) and, if it does not make any practical difference, the other names are much more recognizable and therefore reassuring to people.

Just my two eurocents.

Best,
Tobias

From: "Jay Jay Billings" <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Science Industry Working Group" <science-iwg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:09:44 PM
Subject: Re: [science-iwg] Science Top Level Project draft
Everyone,
This draft is under review by the Steering Committee too and we are going to review it one final time on Wednesday. We will share our thoughts with you then.

Ideally we would have as much community feedback addressed in the document as possible before we submit it to the Foundation. So please speak up if you have ideas!

Jay

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Andrea Ross <andrea.ross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Everyone,

A draft of the Science Top Level Project can be viewed and commented on here. If you're interested in edit access, just ask and I'll grant it to you.

A few folks asked what a Top Level Project (TLP) is in our annual meeting. It's a code-less project that provides vetting for important practices of the projects hosted beneath it. The members of the TLP are called the Project Management Committee (PMC). Here's a page listing the kinds of things the PMC does: https://wiki.eclipse.org/PMC

A couple of key ones are:
  • reviewing, discussing, and approving/rejecting CQ requests before they go to the intellectual property (IP) team.
  • some checks & balances related to committer elections
Kind regards,

Andrea

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