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Well it's a subset of DAWNSci (likely to be used, though I can't say if it's even proposed yet, does not show up in the projects list) that does use it here: https://github.com/eclipse/dawnsci/tree/master/org.eclipse.dawnsci.analysis.api

Unless part of DAWNSci was withdrawn, one of these
  • jsr-275 "beta 2"
  • jscience 4.3.1 (currently no CQ)
  • unit-api 0.6.1
  • jsr-363 (currently no working CQ)
and with significant limitations (e.g. no compile time quantity checks, etc.)  either
  • icu4j 50 and above
  • osgi-measurement
will be necessary for Unit / Quantity metadata and handling.

Werner


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Hi,

The project I posted has no such dependencies.

Jonah

On Thursday, 10 September 2015, UOMo <uomo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Tracy/all,
>
> Great to see, thanks for the update.
> If you take the effort of trying to help Apache Commons Math 3 into Orbit,
> what about JScience, and do you use any of the "org.jscience" parts at all
> or just "javax.measure"?
>
> As of now at least uDig got a LocationTech P2 artifact
> jsr-275-1.0-beta-2.jar
>
> based on a CQ that's already been accepted by Eclipse IP. Reusing that in
> the "main" Orbit does not seem a problem at all.
>
> While JScience 4.3.1 (
> http://search.maven.org/#artifactdetails%7Corg.jscience%7Cjscience%7C4.3.1%7Cjar)
> on MavenCentral claims to use Apache 2.0, every source artifact or the
> Java.net project https://java.net/projects/jscience always suggested the
> license was BSD.
> Leaving the last "official" version of JSR-275 aside, which is used by
> GeoAPI 3.0 (thus if a project like uDig used GeoAPI 3.0 and JSR-275
> "beta-2" the two versions are quite different with some classes being
> simply incompatible!) what I saw from the JAR it looks like Jean-Marie
> never upgraded JScience 4.3.1 to a later version of the JSR, hence that
> CQ-approved bundle should work for you if you use JScience 4.3.1 now.
>
> The license of the standalone JSR did change, but being part of the
> "bundle" JScience in this form it is safe to assume, BSD works.
>
> Would you consider using that, or prefer requesting the whole JScience
> 4.3.1 bundle (you must have created an OSGi enabled variant already) to be
> added?
>
> Either way also seems a viable path for IoT projects like SmartHome, they
> tried using JSR-275 (based on this "beta-2" I believe), JSR-363 (which is
> not approved by IP folks at this point either, similar to Apache Commons
> Math 3) and Unit-API 0.6.1, also approved and available in Orbit. If you
> found a dependency common to most Eclipse/LocationTech project that would
> certainly be beneficial to all projects;-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Werner
>
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>> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 15:48:47 +0100
>> From: Tracy Miranda <tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> To: Science Industry Working Group <science-iwg@xxxxxxxxxxx
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> I hope you have been having a good time considering Eclipse Datasets
>> for Science.
>>
>> I pushed a new branch
>> (
>> https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/org.eclipse.dataset/tree/apache_math3
>> )
>> showing the upgrade to apache commons math3 library (assuming it gets
>> through ip review and into Orbit sometime soon).
>>
>> On reviewing the differences (manually + using PDE API analysis) it
>> seems the only API effect is the
>> org.apache.commons.math{3}.complex.Complex dependency. Obviously
>> ComplexFloatDataset and ComplexDoubleDataset have lots of methods that
>> have Complex in their signature. Additionally, Maths, Stats,
>> AbstractDataset and a few other places rely on which Complex.
>>
>> So, once org.apache.commons.math3 is approved, is there anyone who
>> needs IDataset to work with org.apache.commons.math.complex.Complex?
>>
>> Jonah
>>
>> On 9 September 2015 at 12:15, Jay Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>> > Great news! Looking forward to trying it.
>> >
>> > Jay
>> >
>> > On Sep 8, 2015 6:28 PM, "Tracy Miranda" <tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Following on from our previous email[1] Jonah has now created a fork of
>> >> DAWNSci's datasets which is available here:
>> >> https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/org.eclipse.dataset
>> >>
>> >> Details of how you can try it out for yourself are here:
>> >> https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/org.eclipse.dataset.examples
>> >>
>> >> In particular this fork:
>> >> * Is a subset of dataset functionality
>> >> * Has a p2 site available to try out the code
>> >> * p2 site includes source bundles
>> >> * Depends only on current Orbit approved bundles
>> >> * Has no pre-compiled JARs
>> >> * Works with Eclipse 4
>> >> * Works as a standalone JAR
>> >> * Includes all relevant tests from Dawn
>> >> * Buildable with maven/tycho (e.g. run mvn verify and get an update
>> site)
>> >> * using Travis CI as build machine
>> >>
>> >> Datasets features & functionality includes:
>> >>   * Various types: doubles, compound, complex, float, etc
>> >>   * Array creation
>> >>   * Universal functions e.g. sin, cos, exp
>> >>   * Linear algebra
>> >>   * Indexing & slicing
>> >>   * Regions of interest e.g. rectangular
>> >>
>> >> This fork is intended to be a springboard for SWG members to try out
>> DAWN
>> >> datasets, and start to discuss how it applies to their projects. We
>> will
>> >> maintain it in the short term.
>> >>
>> >>   When you next have an opportunity we hope all interested parties
>> could
>> >>   1.Try it out
>> >>     - can you run the example?
>> >>     - can you integrate it with your codebase?
>> >>
>> >>   2. Get Involved in architecture discussions:
>> >>     - how does it fit within your framework?
>> >>     - what works well?
>> >>     - what's missing?
>> >>     - suggestions for improvements.
>> >>
>> >> Ultimately the goal is to have a standardised dataset API &
>> implementation
>> >> shared by all.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Tracy
>> >>
>> >> [1] http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists//science-iwg/msg01074.html
>> >>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 11:54:36 -0400
>> From: Jay Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx');>>
>> To: Science Industry Working Group <science-iwg@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','science-iwg@xxxxxxxxxxx');>>
>> Subject: Re: [science-iwg] Eclipse Datasets for Science
>> Message-ID:
>>         <
>> CAE3ybv5Urq+P4tFgo0D1WkeroH_ZQR3SW2Xutzo0mQLB2dxyYw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Jonah,
>>
>> We do. We require Complex numbers for our Reflectivity Simulator.
>>
>> Jay
>> On Sep 10, 2015 10:50 AM, "Tracy Miranda" <tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I hope you have been having a good time considering Eclipse Datasets
>> > for Science.
>> >
>> > I pushed a new branch
>> > (
>> >
>> https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/org.eclipse.dataset/tree/apache_math3
>> > )
>> > showing the upgrade to apache commons math3 library (assuming it gets
>> > through ip review and into Orbit sometime soon).
>> >
>> > On reviewing the differences (manually + using PDE API analysis) it
>> > seems the only API effect is the
>> > org.apache.commons.math{3}.complex.Complex dependency. Obviously
>> > ComplexFloatDataset and ComplexDoubleDataset have lots of methods that
>> > have Complex in their signature. Additionally, Maths, Stats,
>> > AbstractDataset and a few other places rely on which Complex.
>> >
>> > So, once org.apache.commons.math3 is approved, is there anyone who
>> > needs IDataset to work with org.apache.commons.math.complex.Complex?
>> >
>> > Jonah
>> >
>> > On 9 September 2015 at 12:15, Jay Jay Billings <
>> jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx');>>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Great news! Looking forward to trying it.
>> > >
>> > > Jay
>> > >
>> > > On Sep 8, 2015 6:28 PM, "Tracy Miranda" <tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Following on from our previous email[1] Jonah has now created a fork
>> of
>> > >> DAWNSci's datasets which is available here:
>> > >> https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/org.eclipse.dataset
>> > >>
>> > >> Details of how you can try it out for yourself are here:
>> > >> https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/org.eclipse.dataset.examples
>> > >>
>> > >> In particular this fork:
>> > >> * Is a subset of dataset functionality
>> > >> * Has a p2 site available to try out the code
>> > >> * p2 site includes source bundles
>> > >> * Depends only on current Orbit approved bundles
>> > >> * Has no pre-compiled JARs
>> > >> * Works with Eclipse 4
>> > >> * Works as a standalone JAR
>> > >> * Includes all relevant tests from Dawn
>> > >> * Buildable with maven/tycho (e.g. run mvn verify and get an update
>> > site)
>> > >> * using Travis CI as build machine
>> > >>
>> > >> Datasets features & functionality includes:
>> > >>   * Various types: doubles, compound, complex, float, etc
>> > >>   * Array creation
>> > >>   * Universal functions e.g. sin, cos, exp
>> > >>   * Linear algebra
>> > >>   * Indexing & slicing
>> > >>   * Regions of interest e.g. rectangular
>> > >>
>> > >> This fork is intended to be a springboard for SWG members to try out
>> > DAWN
>> > >> datasets, and start to discuss how it applies to their projects. We
>> will
>> > >> maintain it in the short term.
>> > >>
>> > >>   When you next have an opportunity we hope all interested parties
>> could
>> > >>   1.Try it out
>> > >>     - can you run the example?
>> > >>     - can you integrate it with your codebase?
>> > >>
>> > >>   2. Get Involved in architecture discussions:
>> > >>     - how does it fit within your framework?
>> > >>     - what works well?
>> > >>     - what's missing?
>> > >>     - suggestions for improvements.
>> > >>
>> > >> Ultimately the goal is to have a standardised dataset API &
>> > implementation
>> > >> shared by all.
>> > >>
>> > >> Regards,
>> > >> Tracy
>> > >>
>> > >> [1] http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists//science-iwg/msg01074.html
>> > >>
>> > >> _______________________________________________
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>> Behalf Of Jay Jay Billings
>> Sent: 10 September 2015 16:55
>> To: Science Industry Working Group
>> Subject: Re: [science-iwg] Eclipse Datasets for Science
>>
>>
>> Jonah,
>>
>> We do. We require Complex numbers for our Reflectivity Simulator.
>>
>> Jay
>> On Sep 10, 2015 10:50 AM, "Tracy Miranda" <tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');><mailto:
>> tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');>>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I hope you have been having a good time considering Eclipse Datasets
>> for Science.
>>
>> I pushed a new branch
>> (
>> https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/org.eclipse.dataset/tree/apache_math3
>> )
>> showing the upgrade to apache commons math3 library (assuming it gets
>> through ip review and into Orbit sometime soon).
>>
>> On reviewing the differences (manually + using PDE API analysis) it
>> seems the only API effect is the
>> org.apache.commons.math{3}.complex.Complex dependency. Obviously
>> ComplexFloatDataset and ComplexDoubleDataset have lots of methods that
>> have Complex in their signature. Additionally, Maths, Stats,
>> AbstractDataset and a few other places rely on which Complex.
>>
>> So, once org.apache.commons.math3 is approved, is there anyone who
>> needs IDataset to work with org.apache.commons.math.complex.Complex?
>>
>> Jonah
>>
>> On 9 September 2015 at 12:15, Jay Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx');><mailto:
>> jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx');>>> wrote:
>> > Great news! Looking forward to trying it.
>> >
>> > Jay
>> >
>> > On Sep 8, 2015 6:28 PM, "Tracy Miranda" <tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');><mailto:
>> tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <_javascript_:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Following on from our previous email[1] Jonah has now created a fork of
>> >> DAWNSci's datasets which is available here:
>> >> https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/org.eclipse.dataset
>> >>
>> >> Details of how you can try it out for yourself are here:
>> >> https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/org.eclipse.dataset.examples
>> >>
>> >> In particular this fork:
>> >> * Is a subset of dataset functionality
>> >> * Has a p2 site available to try out the code
>> >> * p2 site includes source bundles
>> >> * Depends only on current Orbit approved bundles
>> >> * Has no pre-compiled JARs
>> >> * Works with Eclipse 4
>> >> * Works as a standalone JAR
>> >> * Includes all relevant tests from Dawn
>> >> * Buildable with maven/tycho (e.g. run mvn verify and get an update
>> site)
>> >> * using Travis CI as build machine
>> >>
>> >> Datasets features & functionality includes:
>> >>   * Various types: doubles, compound, complex, float, etc
>> >>   * Array creation
>> >>   * Universal functions e.g. sin, cos, exp
>> >>   * Linear algebra
>> >>   * Indexing & slicing
>> >>   * Regions of interest e.g. rectangular
>> >>
>> >> This fork is intended to be a springboard for SWG members to try out
>> DAWN
>> >> datasets, and start to discuss how it applies to their projects. We
>> will
>> >> maintain it in the short term.
>> >>
>> >>   When you next have an opportunity we hope all interested parties
>> could
>> >>   1.Try it out
>> >>     - can you run the example?
>> >>     - can you integrate it with your codebase?
>> >>
>> >>   2. Get Involved in architecture discussions:
>> >>     - how does it fit within your framework?
>> >>     - what works well?
>> >>     - what's missing?
>> >>     - suggestions for improvements.
>> >>
>> >> Ultimately the goal is to have a standardised dataset API &
>> implementation
>> >> shared by all.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Tracy
>> >>
>> >> [1] http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists//science-iwg/msg01074.html<
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/science-iwg/msg01074.html>
>> >>
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