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Re: [science-iwg] IDataSet in EAVP

Everyone,

I should clarify that EAVP is short for "the Eclipse Advanced Visualization Project" for those who haven't heard of it before. It is the viz project that we have been discussing for awhile.

Jau

On Aug 31, 2015 2:01 PM, "Jay Jay Billings" <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Matt,

I met with Alex this morning and he told me how awesome the Norway meeting was. He also told me that there is broad support for using IDataSet in EAVP. I would like to discuss how we can move forward on this. I strongly support the use of IDataSet in EAVP and I really want to see a tight integration because it is technology that would be very valuable to what we are doing at ORNL and, I imagine, other institutions in this group. There is a very big technical question that we need to answer though: Where is IDataSet going to be released?

In one of our previous steering committee calls you said that DIAMOND has no intention of doing a "full Eclipse release" of DAWNSci since your goal with the project was only to release the source code, not binaries. That makes it very challenging to use anything in DAWNSci in any other SWG project because it lacks that Eclipse "technical goodness" that many of our projects depend on.

So, if you don't mind, let's start there. What are your release plans for DAWNSci? If you are planning an official, Eclipse.org release then I think we can use IDataSet as it is and just wait on your release. However, if not or if not reasonably soon, then I think you should seriously consider contributing it to EAVP so that the community can use it and help develop it with you.

Alex noted that you felt like the "moving IDataSet" option would make EAVP a competitor to DAWNSci. I don't personally see that since no other Eclipse projects are competitors to DAWNSci. I urge you not to look at the project that way either. It is meant to be an open, community effort that we all work on - and use - together.

Please let me know what you think and let's keep this discussion in the open so that we can get good thoughts and ideas from the community. I'm certain there is a workable path forward on this.

Jay

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Jay Jay Billings
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Twitter Handle: @jayjaybillings

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