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Re: [science-iwg] [location-iwg] Scientific papers - scientific software

Hi Andrew,

Regarding the metadata I agree. It's something we might use as a first starting point together with a related landing page that more or less shows the metadata in a convenient way plus additional information such as metrics and some interactive elements like links or a web based code repository browser.

Unfortunately, the DOI thing isn't that easy. Either Eclipse becomes a DOI minting agency itself or an existing partnership with a partner who already is a registered agency supports this idea. Thus the DOI infrastructure provided by the partner already exists, is maintained, and finally can be used for minting DOIs, for maintaining the metadata, and for properly redirecting the DOI to the landing page.

Furthermore, an agency is a member of the International DOI Foundation (IDF), as far as I know, and has to commit to certain regulations, e.g. if an agency shuts down services than the other member/agencies have to sort out how DOI labeled digital objects are taken over by the other members. So if the Eclipse Foundation wants to mint DOIs itself it finally means the foundation is part of a kind of social commitment and has to consider further implications. So having the opportunity to get support by a partner who already takes care of all of this in the role of a DOI minting agency would possibly be highly beneficial in a first phase.

And last but not least, the IDF membership and the minting of DOIs costs money, as far as I know.

So the one thing is the technical implementation and the set-up of some additional processes that possibly can be put on top as a kind of simple layer realising the idea without touching what already exists and is working for the WGs.

The other thing is the DOI related stuff, that should be well thought out since this is another world we depend on if we want to assign DOIs to software releases. Unfortunately, this is the currency in sciences. However, we may also consider the use of the Handle system at first, which is the foundation of the DOI system. As far as I know, its no problem to make use of the Handle system at no cost. This would allow a first proof of concept.

Just some further thoughts ... I am not an expert in this library and publisher driven DOI world.

Best,
Martin

On 17 Apr 2015 21:58, "Andrew Ross" <andrew.ross@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Philip, Martin, and All

I like the idea FWIW. And it sounds quite reasonable to implement.

Part of the meta data could be a git commit and direct link to the code repository.

I suspect the team/community could determine the meta data fields without too much trouble.

How would the DOI be generated? I'm wondering if this is something we can automate and simply give to all releases and maybe even all builds.

Kind regards,

Andrew

On 16/04/15 08:04, Philip Wenig wrote:
Hi folks,

Martin gave an excellent talk about the publication of software at the EGU meeting yesterday. Scientists get reward for papers but not for software. Papers are cited, software not. That's a drawback for a scientific career. As we know, software has become crucial in scientific research nowadays. Hence, I'd like to share some of Martin's ideas with you:

* Certain Science/LocationTech WG releases/packages get a DOI
* The DOI points to a landing page with appropriate metadata to cite the release/package
* The release/package can be cited and will be ranked on Google Scholar and other systems

= This could be an incentive for more scientists to publish their software under the umbrella of the Science and LocationTech WG.

What's your opinion?


Best,
Philip

PDF of Martin's presentation:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tulhwtEK9l1yGaAX1YWsMR7OrQAwWDee4N2M1Yy7bIo/edit?pli=1#slide=id.gada00e2fc_0_866


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