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Re: [science-iwg] Review BoF EclipseCon

Hi all,

I think there are three issues that need to be addressed here:

A) How are we going to name the "Science WG" proposal?
Do we need a distinct IDN for the Science WG like "org.eclipse.science" or is it only a frame for all participating projects, see C?

B) Which name should we take for a generic 1d - 3d data processing and visualization framework?
In my opinion, a separate project called "SciSoft" -> "org.eclipse.scisoft" would be fine if there are no concerns regarding trademarks. IHMO, only "org.eclipse.science" would be a bit too generic.

C) Shall all participating projects change their plug-in names to "org.eclipse.science"?
I think no. The Science WG will be (only) the top level project. It will be the umbrella for several distinct subprojects. Hence, each project shall write an own proposal to migrate its code to the Eclipse Foundation. All accepted and migrated projects could then be a part of the Science WG, e.g.:

SciSoft @eclipse (org.eclipse.scisoft)
DAWN -> DAWN @eclipse (org.eclipse.dawn)
SIMA -> SIMA @eclipse (org.eclipse.sima)
Bioclipse -> Bioclipse @eclipse (org.eclipse.bioclipse)
OpenChrom -> ChemClipse @eclipse (org.eclipse.chemclipse) [We have a trademark on OpenChrom, hence we are going to write a proposal as ChemClipse]
...

What's your opinion?


Cheers
Philip



On 06.11.2013 10:11, Matt.Gerring@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Hello,

 

Yes this was my thinking too, I thought org.eclipse.science was not likely to be the project name (?) and org.eclipse.science-iwg is rather pants so I resorted to org.eclipse.scisoft. However maybe we could make org.eclipse.science the project after all? Or would that be somewhat arrogant to the other science projects under eclipse?

 

I think, but am not entirely sure, that it would be good if we do choose one we all agree on. The alternative is that we all submit our own eclipse projects. I think we would likely get more value from a joint project but it will be harder to set up and agree on. Which is where the starting small idea came from.

 

Matt

 

From: science-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:science-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich
Sent: 05 November 2013 22:50
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Subject: Re: [science-iwg] Review BoF EclipseCon

 

 

Before everyone gets too committed to this namespace, let's check with Wayne Beaton. My recollection is that the current recommendation is that project namespaces be simply org.eclipse.projectname, and not include the top-level project. 

 

But Wayne's the guy who knows :)

 

 

From: Jay Jay Billings

Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 5:44 PM

To: Science Industry Working Group

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Subject: Re: [science-iwg] Review BoF EclipseCon

 

+1 from me too for org.eclipse.science.

Jay

On Nov 5, 2013 4:44 PM, "UOMo" <uomo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Just to add, I also feel OK with the package hierarchy suggestions other than the name of the project top level;-)

 

Werner

 

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Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 21:01:44 +0100
From: Stephan Druskat <stephan.druskat@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [science-iwg] Review BoF EclipseCon
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Hi All,

+1 for org.eclipse.science.*, just because it's nice and generic and
probably un-trademark-able.

Other than that I like Matt & Philip's suggestions.

Cheers,
Stephan
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Zitat von UOMo <uomo@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> Just saw, Scisoft or the ESO (EU Observatory) software artifact is even
> called "eclipse", too, http://www.eso.org/sci/software/eclipse/ for obvious
> reasons, it deals with Solar or Lunar Eclipse observation, there is no
> evidence of Eclipse software being used, but that makes the combination of
> "eclipse" and "scisoft" even more irritating.
>
> Especiallly that looks like a very professional and well-established
> project, even if there may not be a trademark.
>
> Werner


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