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Re: [ide-dev] Beware MSFT bullshit

Another one I've come across is Licplise TextÂ


I had some mixed results though. Â

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 at 6:52 am, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 22 Mar 2017, at 18:16, Mickael Istria wrote:
>> > I guess TM4E together with the generic editor would be the way to
>> go, if we could support users directly adding Textmate grammars,
>> instead of installing "heavyweight" plug-ins.
>> Do users actually add textmate grammars into other editors/IDEs? I
>> don't think so.
> I think you are missing the point.
> Why are we even discussing TextMate ? Because it popularised the
> format for sharing syntax highlight of files.
> Its now outgrown textmate itself and used in multiple locations from
> desktop, to phones to web apps.
> Why? Because its super easy to modify, share and install.
> Does most users add textmate grammars into other editors/IDEs that
> support textmate ? No - because
> most that support this just have super tiny little zip or folder with
> a bunch of languages with not much extra overhead.
> Where its super great are contributions and fixes - zero need to learn
> to build, compile, apis etc. you just adjust the existing templates
> and see the changes (often live or by simply reload of file).
> By having textmate support in eclipse this enables eclipse to
> participate here and lower the barrier of entry from both users (no
> need to download additional plugins for basic syntax highlight
> functionallity) and contributors can start small as opposed to steep
> learnning curve.
>> There are just 2 kinds of things: what's out of the box, and what
>> requires an installation -whichever steps it involves. Having to add
>> a textmate grammar in the IDE isn't going to be simpler than
>> installing the right plugin from marketplace automatically proposed
>> by the IDE.
> No, and what is the problem with that ? Right now most don't even have
> to install anything. Its in eclipse you have to install other plugins
> to get this.
>> So far, TM4E wasn't meant to include TM grammars. But we could
>> imagine having it shipping a library of grammars for the most common
>> types. Please open tickets (using GitHub issues) against TM4E to
>> discuss that.
> Just add all you can get through CQ IMO. no need to hold back.
> If I knew where TM4E was I could open that bug.
> /max
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