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On 13 Sep 2016, at 16:06, Doug Schaefer wrote:
OK, gang, it’s time to start talking about this. I’d love to hear
what people think of Visual Studio Code and it’s potential as an
IDE. Are there things that it does that are better than what we have
in the Eclipse IDE? It is technically feasible to go in that same
direction? Do we even want to?
VS Code is a coding editor not an IDE. It caters a different workflow
than IDEs. Yes there are ideas here and there that can be applied to
Eclipse workflows such as the language server but I think Eclipse should
continue to improve on its workflow and not borrow a new one.
As the Java language server grows and serves VS Code, I wonder how
good of a Java IDE it could become.
As a coincidence, We have released the VSCode extension that uses JDT
based server to marketplace yesterday. As Fred puts “it is making
hipsters use eclipse and m2e” [2] :)
[1] https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=redhat.java
[2] https://twitter.com/fbricon/status/775826563992551424
I am also starting to wonder that about C++ with either a CDT based
language server or something built on Clang (which I believe they have
already).
C++ language server is something interesting. The current C++ server
from MSFT is lacking a few important features. I think a CDT based
server may actually be the answer.
I can certainly see how project-less workspaces are desirable to C/C++
devs. We’ve been fighting the Eclipse project paradigm since the
beginning.
It seems though that VS Code is very reluctant to introduce anything
resembling forms, or even widgets. Everything seems to be text based,
even their Preferences settings brings you to a JSON editor. I think
it’s kind of ridiculous, especially for new users.
It’ll be interesting to hear Erich Gamma’s keynote at ECE. If they
stay with their current approach, I think Eclipse will keep miles
ahead. At the same time I fear if they try to be more like Eclipse,
they’ll fall into the same traps we’ve fallen into. Erich’s a
driving force behind both, be interesting to see where it goes.
Doug.
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