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Re: [ee4j-pmc] Project/Specification dependencies

Please do.

FWIW, we don't actually require an IP review for website content. I just need to make sure that the licenses are all good. I'm pretty sure that they are...

Wayne

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:49 AM, Guillermo González de Agüero <z06.guillermo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I imagine you guessed it, but just in case, I used the https://github.com/mountainstorm/jquery.graphviz.svg/ jQuery plugin.

Should I provide a PR so the work can be integrated once IP is ok?

El mié., 23 may. 2018 a las 23:35, Wayne Beaton (<wayne.beaton@eclipse-foundation.org>) escribió:
I decided to start with "something is better than nothing" while I sort out the IP management implications of leveraging Guillermo's implementation.

Wayne

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 5:14 PM, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Wonderful!  Thanks, Wayne!

This is missing the highlighting and clickability, has that change not been integrated yet?

Wayne Beaton wrote on 05/23/18 01:54 PM:

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne.beaton@eclipse-foundation.org> wrote:
The Asciidoctor generator has a handy feature that makes rolling a Graphviz image into a generated page pretty easy. I'll make that happen.
Wayne

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Guillermo González de Agüero <z06.guillermo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I've provided another PR adding some relationships I think were missing [1]. I'll try to provide some example of an individual project graph detailing its optional dependencies.

Wayne, do you think we could manually upload the generated SVG to the website while we find a way to automate it? I don't expect many people to actually contribute in the form a PR, but having the graph publicly available would encourage feedback.

Regards,

Guillermo González de Agüero


El mar., 22 may. 2018 a las 22:25, Guillermo González de Agüero (<z06.guillermo@xxxxxxxxx>) escribió:
Sure you already know it, but while EJB doesn't hold a hard dependency on JCA, message driven beans can be customized via JCA.

It's probably too much for a single graph, but this kind of "integrates with" relationship are also very interesting. JACC would also integrate with EJB and Servlets; JASPIC with Servlets, etc.

Perhaps we can work on individual project graphs once we are done with this overview.


El mar., 22 may. 2018 19:13, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
It's because I removed the "Jakarta EE platform" item, which was the only thing that referenced those API projects.  GlassFish contains the implementations of those APIs.  As discussed previously, we decided that GlassFish would only reference other projects that contained an implementation, even though it actually does depend on all these API projects as well.

There's other "orphan" projects that aren't on the left so partly this is just a layout issue.

Kevin Sutter wrote on 5/22/18 6:58 AM:
This is getting very useful...  One question...  Why are there "orphan" projects on the left hand side (Common Annotations, EJB, JACC, and JCA)?  Are there missing relationships?  Thanks!

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From:        Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:        EE4J PMC Discussions <ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Guillermo González de Agüero" <z06.guillermo@xxxxxxxxx>
Date:        05/21/2018 03:03 PM
Subject:        Re: [ee4j-pmc] Project/Specification dependencies
Sent by:        ee4j-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx




That is very cool!  Thanks!

One minor issue...  Can the hover text translate "\n" to " "?

Guillermo González de Agüero wrote on 05/20/18 02:44 AM:
I've provided a PR adding URLs for projects [1] and created a simple HTML demo supporting dependency highligh on hover with a jQuery library [2].


Regards,

Guillermo González de Agüero

[1]
https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j-website/pull/16
[2]
https://cdn.rawgit.com/ggam/jquery.graphviz.svg/master/demo.html

El dom., 20 may. 2018 a las 10:25, Guillermo González de Agüero (<z06.guillermo@xxxxxxxxx>) escribió:
Additionally to the SVG output, seems like Graphviz can also generate a clickable HTML image map which could be better suited for the website.

El sáb., 19 may. 2018 a las 0:44, Bill Shannon (<bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx>) escribió:
I submitted another pull request.

I think this is getting to be pretty close to accurate.

I removed the Jakarta EE platform because the picture was just too cluttered with it included and it didn't really add any value.

Is (or can) the svg output from "dot" published automatically on the web site to make it easy for people to review it?


Wayne Beaton wrote on 05/17/18 08:33 PM:
I've rolled in the pull request.

I tweaked the diagram a bit more. I decided to, for example, separate the projects not hosted as Eclipse Projects.

Wayne

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Wayne Beaton wrote on 05/17/2018 06:00 PM:
GlassFish absolutely needs the artifacts produced by the API projects; it won't function without them.

I understand. But I don't think that having the diagram indicate that GlassFish implements all of the specifications is useful. Like I said earlier, it's not clear to me that expressing the that Jakarta EE references all of the specifications, while true, is all that useful on the diagram.

GlassFish does implement JPA, but it implements JPA by way of consuming EclipseLink. This is the interesting relationship IMHO, as it describes the relationships between the projects and makes it clear that GlassFish doesn't implement that particular specification directly. 

Again, I'm pretty sure that GlassFish does implement EJB. IMHO, by saying GlassFish consumes EclipseLink, but implements EJB gives me more information about where to look for stuff.
I understand.  I just wanted to make sure we all agreed on what this picture is trying to capture.  I updated it with this in mind.  If you want to remove Jakarta EE, that's fine with me.


I'll take a look at the pull request.

Thanks.




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