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RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Agenda for the e4 Summit

Depending on the room configuration and number of people it is possible to do the breakouts in the same room.  4 breakouts, 4 corners…  We did this for the Equinox summit.  It is less than optimal so additional rooms would be good.  In the limit N-1 additional rooms where N is the number of expected concurrent breakouts.

 

Jeff

 

From: eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 3:58 PM
To: 'E4 developer list'
Cc: 'Lynn Gayowski'
Subject: RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Agenda for the e4 Summit

 

It is all well and good to suggest having breakouts, but right now we don’t have rooms for them.

 

If there is a need to breakout rooms, can someone please confirm that requirement and how many rooms are desired. Then we will see if IBM’s facilities at the former Cognos HQ can accommodate our ever-increasing needs J

 

Mike Milinkovich

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From: eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff McAffer
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 11:50 AM
To: 'E4 developer list'
Subject: RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Agenda for the e4 Summit

 

This is a fine line that we have walked with the p2 and Equinox summits.  On the one hand you want all interested parties to feel welcome on the other we are shooting for some actual results.  People with skin in the game are ideal.  They have the power to act on things, drive directions, make contributions.  The way we but it for the provisioning workshop was

 

“This is not a meeting for managers or observers, it's a workshop for do-ers - people who have code or real-world experience to contribute or can provide other substantial information that furthers the goals of the workshop.”

 

Something we did for the Equinox summit was to ask people for short position papers:

“Writing a short positioning paper outlining your usecases, requirements and potential contributions really helps.”

 

This helps both self-identify individuals ideas/code/time to contribute and harvest content for the discussions. 

 

As for setting up the agenda etc, I agree with John that spending the bit of the summit level setting and gathering topic is great.  We then voted on breakout session topics with some light moderation to ensure diversity an coverage.  First day was aimed at discovery of issues, topics, directions.  Second day was more aimed at progress on key areas and then we summed up with some action items and near term planning.

 

I would suggest no more than 4 break outs at a time.

 

Just some thoughts based on some past summits.

Jeff

 

From: eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:38 PM
To: E4 developer list
Subject: RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Agenda for the e4 Summit

 

That's a great point John. This will play on how big a venue we need as well. We really need to highlight that this is intended to be a working event for potential contributors. If we get as many people that attended the e4 talk at EclipseCon, then I don't think that'll serve us well.

 

Doug.

 


From: eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Arthorne
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:14 PM
To: E4 developer list
Subject: Re: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Agenda for the e4 Summit


Yep, makes sense. It's important to emphasize to all participants, that with this format you will get out of the summit in proportion to what you put into it.  If you show up with no topics and no concrete ideas, then you will likely end up just listening to discussions that don't interest you and give you little value in the end. If you show up with a good idea of what areas interest you and what you want to focus on, you can steer the topics accordingly and get a lot more out of it.

John

eclipse-incubator-e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 04/11/2008 02:07:06 PM:

>
> Hi John,
>
> This makes sense to me.  The summit should be dynamic.  When Boris
> and I discussed it my comment was just that I wanted to ensure we
> all had done some mental prep work before arriving so that we could
> get the most out of our time together.  Thus its good if we have a
> rough plan of topic areas and who is interested.  But then, since an
> important output of the summit *is* to decide what the topic areas
> are and who is interested, we should expect this to solidify from
> our discussions there.
>
> You know, I just don't want us to all to show up and go, "So...
> what's happening?" :)
>
> Kevin


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