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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse for Committers

Hi Stefan,

On 09/06/2016 09:10 PM, Stefan Xenos wrote:
...things don't install properly because there's stuff in the Eclipse for Committers package that isn't included in the 4.7 I-build. This is especially problematic because the UI setup page instructions tell users to start by installing Eclipse for Committers:
...so if anyone follows these instructions, they aren't actually using an I-build and don't have an easy way to change their environment to do so. This also seems to be a problem with all Oomph-installed versions of Eclipse. Since Oomph uses these Eclipse packages as the basis for all of its installations, there doesn't seem to be a way to use Oomph and an Eclipse 4.7 I-build at the same time, which is a real problem. I've described it in more detail here:
It's not a matter of content, but a matter of stream: Platform recommends to use the currently developed stream, and packages are on the last released one.
Many Eclipse committers are happy to rely on the last released version, and this is totally fine for the majority of the Eclipse.org projects. Platform UI is the only one that mostly require to work with a recent SDK of the same stream.

1. Delete the "Eclipse for Committers" package entirely. Recommend that commiters install the "Eclipse Platform" build (or whatever package it is that buildsÂhttp://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/4.7-I-builds/Â). Update the oomph scripts to install any extra stuff as part of the oomph install script rather than as part of the package.
IMHO, that would make sense. Especially since there is an "Eclipse for RCP/RAP developers" which contains a super-content of the "Eclipse for Committers" one (and no, RAP isn't affecting badly UI nor performance as some thought in the past).
The "Eclipse for Committers" is indeed a bad name for Platform, because it seems to be the standard package for committers, whereas it's actually not the one that works for Platform.

2. Keep "Eclipse for Committers" package, but reduce its contents such that it contains exactly those plugins that we produce integration builds for. Update the Oomph scripts to install any extra stuff as part of the install script.
See above, I don't think it's a matter of content, but a matter of versions and stream. So I'm afraid that solution wouldn't work.

3. Keep the current "Eclipse for Committers" package with its current contents and start running integration builds for it.
EPP packages are built on any SimRel change, so what you're asking for here is supposed to be available at https://hudson.eclipse.org/packaging/job/oxygen.epp-tycho-build/ (when there is a good build available).
Maybe the Platform doc can be updated to recommend using such integration build.


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