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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Joint N&N page for the release train


From: Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Ideally, we have a product/project manager who puts all this together. Don’t let engineers do your marketing :).

-1, having worked for a large software company in the past, I think the current platform approach of having the developer describe his development is much more efficient.

Efficient, yes. But effective at producing content that users/customers may be interested in and help sell them on your product without getting lost in the tragedy of the commons? To be honest, I think a N&N for the entire release train that isn’t managed by a single person will be a disaster.



On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Ideally, we have a product/project manager who puts all this together. Don’t let engineers do your marketing :).

D

From: Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Organization: The Eclipse Foundation
Reply-To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, February 2, 2015 at 10:53 AM
To: "cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx" <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Joint N&N page for the release train

Okay. Avoidance of more work is a requirement. Forget all that silliness about a common XML file format and putting extra files in features.

Wayne

On 02/02/15 10:03 AM, Daniel Megert wrote:
For us it would mean more work, which I'd like to avoid. Having one document easily allows to tools to e.g. check for XHTML validity, and help fix such issues. If the document is generated out of pieces, then it can be a tedious task to get to a generated document that is valid. The extension point doc is such an example: the text for the elements is entered in the extension point editor in separate fields, and during build a document is generated. If there are errors, it's hard to detect and fix them. Also, spell checking a single document is easier than doing the same over different fragments.

Another point is, that the N&N of a release is not simply the collection of the milestone N&Ns. We e.g. put the new Quick Fixes under one item for the release, or a feature that got developed over several milestones with entries in the corresponding milestone N&Ns will have to be collapsed into a single entry.

I'd like to keep our approach for our project, since it works well for us, and produces good quality N&N documents. If other projects want to try out something new where the N&N is generated, and provide feedback about how it worked for them, that's of course fine for me too.

Dani

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