| Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions supported by SWT or SWT call for help |
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+1 for dropping GTK3 and staying on 2. I'd like to jump on to JavaFX/SWT as soon as they fix some bugs in the web view. Sorry I missed the earlier note on Qt as well. Something I've been thinking about again as I start working with it more and more in the C++ space. Doug.
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From: Tom Schindl <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed Oct 08 2014 18:16:56 GMT-0400 (EDT) To: cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions supported by SWT or SWT call for help hi,
dropping Gtk2 means:
* swing embed is broken when the Gtk-Theme is used because it links
against Gtk2
* javafx embed is broken because it links against Gtk2
So clearly openjdk/oraclejdk (even the latest builds) links against
Gtk2, or am I wrong in this regard?
I can also prove what Andrey said: We have turned of Gtk3 on *all* our linux desktops because there are too many problems with it.
Tom
On 08.10.14 16:18, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andrey Loskutov" <loskutov@xxxxxx>
>> To: "Cross project issues" <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Aleksandar Kurtakov" <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday,
October 8, 2014 5:11:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions supported by SWT or SWT call for help >>
>> BTW we at Advantest are still using RHEL 5.8, even because RHEL has crazy >> long support times :o)
>>
>> Limiting to GTK3 only and drop GTK2 ports for *new* Eclipse releases would be >> good idea but AFAK GTK3 SWT port is still problematic (I'm on *latest* >> Ubuntu and must turn it off).
>>
>> In general I would also prefer to have always *one* (smallest possible from >> latest GTK on major distros) SWT port for latest Eclipse release but that >> port must be 99% usable.
>>
>> I won't hijack the thread, but the best long term solution for SWT Linux >> ports and Eclipse UI toolkit in general would be to move away from SWT to >> Java FX or better Qt (I know Qt LGPL license is a showstopper, but this *is* >> technically viable
alternative). Without the man power of IBM (which >> originally allowed SWT to be developped for so many different plattforms) >> SWT as we have it today has no feature.
>
> Options are endless. But let's try to limit the discussion towards Mars and Mars+1 for now. In this timeframe I don't think a new option will pop up and I'm trying to solve our daily issues first so we can try to look a bit further. >
>
> Alexander Kurtakov
> Red Hat Eclipse team
>
>>
>>
>> Am 8. Oktober 2014 16:44:30 OESZ, schrieb Aleksandar Kurtakov
>> <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mat Booth" <mat.booth@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Cross project issues" <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 4:27:25 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions
>>> supported by SWT or SWT call for help
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Igor Fedorenko" <igor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To:
cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 8 October, 2014 12:38:10 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Limiting GTK versions
>>> supported by
>>>>> SWT or SWT call for help
>>>>>
>>>>> What major distribution still stuck with GTK2? Aren't they all on >>> GTK3
>>>>> already?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Igor
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RHEL 6/CentOS 6 only has GTK 2.20, IIRC
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards,
>> Andrey Loskutov
>>
>>
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