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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Are too many packages actually hurting Eclipse?

On 30/07/13 03:09, Krzysztof Daniel wrote:
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 00:36 +0000, Doug Schaefer wrote:
+1 for that. I've seen (and made for that matter) commercial products
do that. Download a minimal p2 install with an Eclipse application
that drives the rest of the install. We could ask for a list of
languages or platforms they want to develop for and then install the
necessary components.
I'm very skeptical about P2 in the downloader. It was created in the
past (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Installer) and never made into
real world. AFAIK it would suffer from the same issues as regular P2 -
does require java to be pre-downloaded, no real integration with the
system (privileges elevation) and extreme vulnerability to users.

I'd rather focus on opening P2 to 3rd party installers [1] and offered
users more OS-specific experience. No need to reinvent the wheel.

[1] Bug 378329: Support 3rd party installers


Systems that manage software at the network level know how to talk to OS software management systems. This is a very big deal for many large companies and even quite useful for small & medium sized ones. It's useful to enable outreach as people would get Eclipse just like everything else... be it yum, pacman, zypper, apt, etc. Pity Windows lacks a proper software management system or at least did the last time I ran it.



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