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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Target audience of Juno repo

You can do it now.

On 6/21/2012 12:28 PM, Igor Fedorenko wrote:
Can we do this now or should we wait until next week?

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Regards,
Igor

On 12-06-21 12:20 PM, Ian Skerrett wrote:
All,

We have added a new market on Marketplace called Eclipse Juno Projects.
This will make it a lot easier for people to find the Juno projects in
the the Marketplace Client.

When you add your project to Marketplace, please make sure you specify
that it is included in the Eclipse Juno Projects market. You can also
include it in the Tools market too, if you want.

btw, when you enter your project, please use eclipse.org as the company
name.

Thanks
Ian


On 6/12/2012 2:37 PM, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:

I would recommend adding/updating the entry right when you make the
downloads visible. There could be a delay before the entry is visible
as there is an approval process involved, but it should still be
visible some time on the release day.

- Konstantin

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*Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Target audience of Juno repo

Cool, thanks !

Looking at our Juno endgame plan, it looks like this is something to
be done at or shortly after the release day ?

Martin

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1. http://marketplace.eclipse.org/

2. Click on Add Content link

3. The rest should be self explanatory… J

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Good point,

Is there a quick HOWTO for adding a project’s listing to marketplace ?

Martin

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[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
*Mike Milinkovich
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:42 PM
*To:* 'Cross project issues'
*Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Target audience of Juno repo

Just my personal opinion, but given that the Marketplace Client is
quite popular and is included in almost all of the packages, I would
recommend that Eclipse projects take the time to make their project
distributions available via that channel.

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Behalf Of *Konstantin Komissarchik
*Sent:* May-29-12 12:39 PM
*To:* 'Cross project issues'
*Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Target audience of Juno repo

Trying to fragment the repository around user profiles isn’t going to
be easy or clean. Many users and use cases will not easily fit into
neat profiles.

On the other hand, we already have a venue for presenting users with
an easier to use course-granularity installation option… Eclipse
Marketplace.

- Konstantin

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<mailto:[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]> *On
Behalf Of *Miles Parker
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:25 AM
*To:* Cross project issues
*Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Target audience of Juno repo


+1, but probably way too late to be asking people to make these kind
of changes now. Something that people should be thinking hard about
for Kepler. There is a major need for a higher level of granularity on
the features. Ideally it would be one per project but that isn't
practical in many cases.

On 2012-05-29, at 8:29 AM, Pascal Rapicault wrote:

Once in a while I go through the content of the Juno repo to see
what's there; and I try to see if I can make any sense of what is made
available. Unfortunately this year it reached a point where I just
can't. There are way too many entries that are subtle variations
around the same project and whose installation result in unexpected
results or non functional additions to my install. For example there
is 11 entries for Sapphire, 5 entries for windowBuilder, an infinity
of Mylyn related entries...?

    I understand that we are all trying to promote our project and
    brand, but I would argue that the plethora of entries has a
    reverse effect that let the user confused as to what to install.

    So the main question is "what is the primary target audience of
    the Juno repo?"

    - an eclipse user - e.g. a JEE programmer

    - an eclipse extender - e.g. someone using eclipse technologies to
    build an app

    At this point, the content of the repo looks like what we are
    addressing both audience which may be a convenience for us but a
    nuisance for the end users.

    IMO, the Juno repo should be "end user" focused and only include
    entries whose installation will result in new functionalities to
    be added to the IDE. Also each entry should have

    - a descriptive name (which include removing adjectives such as
    incubation, extender)

    - a minimal number of entries returned when I search for the name

    - be adequately categorized

    How do we go about exposing the rest of the content for extenders?

    - Different repo URLs (e.g.
    download.eclipse.org/releases/juno/developer
    <http://download.eclipse.org/releases/juno/developer>)

    - Addition of a developer focused category (with nested categories)

    wdyt?

    Pascal

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