Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Juno RC1 staging repository is complete

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> Still here, still sorting out dependency issues in my "spare" time.
> (This time w/ GEF3D.) AMP hasn't changed at all since Indigo, but
> everything else has. :) If I don't get them squashed by the end of
> this weekend I will formally withdraw it from Juno.

Ok, so, to be explicit, (I checked after your quick response, which I appreciate) I guess you were in the first three or four milestones before aggregation broke and I disabled your file.  You were not in M6, not in M7, and now not in RC1. You haven't changed since Indigo, though obviously your dependencies have. And, you, and your PMC, still feel confident you can get all this worked out and well tested "in a few days"? Doesn't sound in the spirit of the Simultaneous Release, to me ... but, admit I'm not that familiar with Amp. But ... to miss such significant checkpoints sounds like you may want to adopt the "release when you are ready model" and not worry about expending the extra effort that is needed (by us all) to "stay simultaneous". [And, as an aside, "no changes since Indigo", sounds like not even bug fixes ... so you have either some incredibly solid and stable code ... or ... well, "stagnate" is too strong a word, but maybe a quiescent project?]

Just a suggestion ... there's no shame in not being part of Simultaneous Release if it doesn't fit your needs and resources ... but you are welcome to be in Juno if you do feel confident you have the time to contribute to a high quality Juno Release,  or you can "rejoin" in Juno SR1, if that better fits your schedule and business needs.

I hope my note comes across as constructive as intended and not judgmental, as I'm the first to admit there are all kinds of projects at Eclipse and in the Simultaneous Release and its really up to the committers and adopters to know what's needed and what they want.

Thanks again for keeping us informed and contributing to Eclipse. Good luck,




Miles Parker ---05/23/2012 10:00:01 PM---Still here, still sorting out dependency issues in my "spare" time. (This time w/ GEF3D.) AMP hasn't

From: Miles Parker <miles.parker@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 05/23/2012 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Juno RC1 staging repository is complete
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Still here, still sorting out dependency issues in my "spare" time. (This time w/ GEF3D.) AMP hasn't changed at all since Indigo, but everything else has. :) If I don't get them squashed by the end of this weekend I will formally withdraw it from Juno.

On 2012-05-23, at 6:51 PM, David M Williams wrote:

Thanks to all the last minute fixes and getting a clean build. I've disabled the aggregation build and assume we are ready for RC1, unless someone comes up with a blocking problem that justifies a respin.

My main concern is that there are still two projects still disabled:

amp.b3aggrcon
riena.b3aggrcon

Riena I'm not worried about, I know they sort of "come and go" as are sensitive to exact platform version, so assuming this was an oversight or busy week for the Riena team and they are basically ok and will be back in for RC2.

Amp, on the other hand, has been disabled for nearly all of Juno, and its update site in the b3aggrcon file still points to a software repository named "indigo_b3" which sounds old.

I think maybe Amp has "dropped out" of Juno, and I have just missed that. The contact listed in file is Mile Parker. If I don't here from him soon, here on this list, or hear from the Modeling PMC, I'll assume they've withdrawn and remove the contribution file before RC2.

Thanks all,


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