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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Juno M2 aggregation -- will it be the worst milestone ever?

David,

I'm not sure why so many clients would strictly upper bound their EMF dependencies based on minor version increments.  I know UML2 does this because they extend EMFs GenModel and hence its implementation classes, but I don't expect a significant number of clients to be so intimately dependent on EMF's minor versions.  Of course there could be quite a few things downstream from UML2 that are affected...


Ed,

Clients (bundles) interested in UML2's version range can/should have direct dependencies on UML2 itself and those dependencies can reflect the range restrictions they feel are appropriate.  They don't need that information to trickle through your versions.  Of course if you make API changes in response to those of UML2, then you'll want to make version changes to reflect that level of change in your latest version.

Cheers,
Ed


On 22/09/2011 2:26 AM, Ed Willink wrote:
Hi David

Thanks for the early prompt. MDT/OCL at +1 will try to contribute very soon.

But, just checking our dependencies for a MDT/UML2 M2, I notice that I must have missed an announcement of a UML2 major version change, so as I understand it, MDT/OCL and all downstream projects must have a major version change too.

At present only an I-build exists for MDT/UML2 4.0 so that's what we must use for now. An esartly M2 would help Kenn.

    Regards

        Ed Willink



On 22/09/2011 03:54, David M Williams wrote:
Well, no, probably not ... but, it will take a lot of attention to get it done on time.

First greatest thanks to Kenn Hussey for making (or fixing) an "early" contribution repository [1] for EMF core (or, "base", I think they are now calling the platform-shared parts.

This allows Eclipse 4.2 M2 and EMF M2 to both be installed from repository sites. (For full issues, and longer term improvements, you can follow bug 356644).

Now the problem is that the new version of EMF (and maybe Eclipse M2?), apparently,  breaks numerous other contributions, apparently due to increased minor version numbers (combined with narrow ranges?).

To aggregate, at the moment, I would have to disable about 20 of the b3aggrcon files in org.eclipse.juno.build.

I can (and may) do some disabling, .... but, thought it would be a good time to review the process and timing of making contributions to an aggregation build:

you do not have to wait until your +n day to make a contribution. You can make a "warm-up" contribution at any time ... especially if it is needed to allow the aggregation to succeed. In other words, your +n day is the last possible day to make a contribution ... not the first day you may make one.

Many of the current problems are "ripple effects" from a few low level, commonly used bundles or features (in modeling projects, it appears) so, maybe with only a few fixes we'll be on the right path again, but, I ask that teams try to respond as quickly as possible to fix any "aggregation errors" they get notified about ... please do not think you can wait until your final contribution next week ... and even if you have not been notified yet, if you use EMF, please "peek ahead" with the M2 versions of Eclipse and EMF base and prepare an early version, even if you re-contribute your final version during the (final) window next week. After all, if we had to do a true "iteration" waiting for each of 20 project to fix their builds sequentially before the next one fixes theirs, then we will not finish in time.

Thanks, for your attention, let us know if questions or issues.

[1] http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/emf/updates/2.8milestones

[2] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=356644



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