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[cross-project-issues-dev] Galileo Must Do's: How much Rules? - Results are in

Hi all,
 
almost 2 weeks ago I invited to join a little poll about how much Rules Eclipse needs. The results are in, and quite interesting I'd think:
 
35 people participated, the majority voting for "Guidance" through rules and "Ok to have rules since we all gain from the train". Looks like the PC is doing the right thing after all. Thanks, Planning Council!
 
And for those who're still not happy with their must-do's, I believe they can still negotiate. If I'm not mistaken, the process for negotiation is asking your PMC representative at the PC represent your concerns during the next call (correct, Richard?)
 
Cheers,
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Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
 
 


From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:02 PM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Galileo Must-do's

Hi Thomas and all,
 
I find this discussion extremely interesting.
How much Control does Eclipse need to avoid falling apart as it grows?
I created a little poll for this:
 
Looking forward to interesting results,
 
Cheers,
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Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
 
 


From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas Hallgren
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:02 AM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Galileo Must-do's

I miss the good old days when Open Source communities were based on the contributions that they got, where the contributors were heroes, and the quality of the resulting product were the product of their goodwill and skill. I find that participating in the Eclipse release train nowadays involves efforts that are somewhat overwhelming and that I, instead of adding valid functionality to the areas where I contribute, am forced to implement requirements that brings much less benefit to the intended user base.

I think that when a central management stipulates this many requirements for individual projects, there's a high risk that all the fun is taken out of it. As a contributor, and even as a project manager, I loose control. I no longer decide what's important in my own domain. I no longer prioritize what to do with the time I spend on the projects. Someone else does. A lot of the motivation is thereby lost, replaced with a whip that forces me to comply with a strict set of rules. Was that the intention? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong, I can see that there are benefits in having a common set of requirements. I just think it's a tad too much now.

Regards,
Thomas Hallgren



Schaefer, Doug wrote:
It'll be interesting to see what happens when we get to the Release Review and find few of us actually did all the must dos. Unfortunately, the must do's didn't come with additional contributions and I can't seem to pull any out of my, uh, never mind. I see Doom ahead unless a Christmas miracle happens.

Doug.


From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anthony Hunter
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:20 PM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Galileo Must-do's

Hi Team, with respect to the questioning of the capabilities as a "must do":

http://ahuntereclipse.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-just-dont-have-any-capabilities.html

and further comments should go on https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=252807

Cheers...
Anthony
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Anthony Hunter mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
Software Development Manager: Eclipse Open Source Components
IBM Rational Software: Aurora / GEF / GMF / Modeling Tools


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