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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Re: NAB
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I guess it's up to the planning council,
but this case looks pretty clear. From what I understand, the project
*never* joined the train (hooked into the Ganymede site) for any milestone
or release candidate build and nobody noticed until after the final release
date. Clearly there was also no testing of installing the NAB bits from
the Ganymede site, and due to its absence it missed various verification
tests that David and others performed on the Ganymede repository. You're
about six months too late to join Ganymede, but on the bright side you're
ready six months early for the Io release train.
John
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Hi all
I talked with Doug and Martin. I forward this discussion
to here.
So, if the Ganymede gate isn't closed now then I want
to join to Ganymede train.
And I apologize this lazy boarding and my poor English skill.
Shigeki
Thu, 3 Jul 2008 05:21:16 -0700
"Gaff, Doug" <doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Thanks Martin. I forgot that
the planning council list was closed. Shigeki, if you post to cross-projects,
I’ll forward a copy to the planning council to expedite this.
From: Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:13 AM
To: Gaff, Doug; 'Shigeki Moride'
Subject: RE: NAB
Hi Shigeki,
please post to the
cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
mailing list as well as the
eclipse.org-planning-council@xxxxxxxxxxx
mailing list.
I know that you are subscribed
to cross-project, but I am not
100% sure if you are also subscribed
to planning-council.
The planning council list is a
"closed" one where you need
to ask the EMO by means of an E-Mail
to get subscribed --
you cannot subscribe yourself there.
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior
Member of Technical Staff, Wind
River
Target Management Project Lead,
DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
From: Gaff, Doug
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:10 PM
To: Shigeki Moride
Cc: Oberhuber, Martin
Subject: RE: NAB
Can you post this to eclipse.org-planning-council
today? You can subscribe here if you’re not already subscribed:
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/eclipse.org-planning-council
I think it may be too late,
but let’s see.
From: moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shigeki Moride
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:45 PM
To: Gaff, Doug
Subject: Re: NAB
Doug
Sorry, yesterday was a holiday.
Firstly, eclipse.org-planning-council ML is not feeding
for me.
So, I think the reason of this fact.
1) I couldn't understand the meaning of Ganymede Must Do
#10. I understand that term as about Ganymede Signoff page on wiki. Is
there any pointer to the issue of *.sc file?
2) I seem Ganymede Build page is only described "automatic
build". I couldn't find the necessity to making *.sc file to the project
that have a builded packages.
3) I feel relief at the passage of the release review.
4) Generally, if that issue was announced on cross-project-issues-dev
or other ML then it is too difficult to find it. Because that ML have too
much traffic to read all for non-native English reader. I'm sorry about
this but this is a fact. I need help to tracking that discussion. Please
give me a head-up information.
Shigeki
Tue, 1 Jul 2008 06:44:58 -0700
"Gaff, Doug" <doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Shigeki,
Are you following the discussion on the eclipse.org-planning-council
mailing list? Martin and I have advocated that you be added to the Ganymede
release. But it’s really time for you to make the case on the list and
explain why you didn’t understand the instructions.
Doug
From: Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:26 AM
To: Gaff, Doug
Subject: RE: NAB
Importance: High
Hi Doug,
I think that Shigeki should have
the final word on this. It doesn't seem
right that we fight for his project,
and he doesn't even care about sending
a single e-mail to the cross-project
list. I think he must have the final
word of either
(a) explaining why he didn't
understand the instructions, and asking for
his
project to be picked up, or
(b) withdrawing the request.
After all it's his project and
we're just mentoring it, right? My personal
opinion (and that's for Doug S,
Nick and Bjorn) is that while it seems
absolutely obvious for us build+releng
guys that creating a *.sc file is
required for the Ganymatic, it's
not that obvious for somebody just reading
the "must do's". The
original text, already cited by Nick, is:
"Projects must have stated and demonstrated their
intent to join Ganymede by the M4+0 date. Projects do so by adding themselves
to the table/list above and to the Ganymede common build infrastructure.
" (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede#Must_Do,
#10)
So, Shigeki did add himself to the list, but what the heck would that
... and to the Ganymede build infrastructure"
mean?
I agree that SHigeki can't have
been too keen about joining Ganymede
but it might also be a cultural
question.
However, I think he should have
the final word, and not you.
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior
Member of Technical Staff, Wind
River
Target Management Project Lead,
DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
--
Shigeki Moride
moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
moride@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
--
Shigeki Moride
moride.shigeki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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