Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] p2 update

[David Olsen <David.Olsen@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree that product installers and
other supported tools should be aware of p2 and should take advantage of
it.  I am planning to change our build tools as necessary when the
time comes.

But I'm thinking about the hundreds
of random developers in our organization working on Eclipse applications,
who are used to constructing their Eclipse IDE and their Eclipse target
(to build against) by throwing together random sets of plugins in their
plugins directory.  They realize that this is error prone and can
result in an invalid configuration, but the process works well enough for
them.  Will they have to change their ways?  If so, who will
provide the education and how should it be distributed?

Pascal Rapicault <Pascal_Rapicault@xxxxxxxxxx>
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03/27/2008 11:03

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The advantages are that you now have more flexibility
to organize your
plugins (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Getting_Started#Dropins) but
more importantly it allows you to not mix-up the plug-ins you want to try
with the plug-ins you know already runs well. One of the typical problem
users had in the past was that after having unzipped random stuffs in the
plugins folder, their eclipse install would no longet start and they would
not know what to delete and therefore ended up trashing everything. With
the dropins you can simply delete its content, or if you have organized
the
content of the dropins you can just delete what you believe broke your
install.

All that said, one of the goal of p2 is to get people out of the file
system by offering more appealing installation metaphors such as d&d
of zip
files, URLs, etc onto the installation UI.

PaScaL


                    
                     
                     
                     
                     
                     
                  
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Pascal wrote on 03/27/2008 07:25:00:
>       - p2 is now capable of discovering plugins dropped
in the plugins
> folder, like you have always been able to do. That said, going forward
we
> still recommend people to use the dropins folder

What advantages does using the dropins folder have?  What will go
wrong if
we continue to drop things in the plugins folder?

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