Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Europa Fall Maintenance still in progress

[Markus Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

EPP: Packages based on Platform 3.3.1.1 and the (old!) Europa Update Site are 
already on my local hard disk and I will upload them today to the EPP 
download page. Then we can decide until Monday, if we push them to the main 
Eclipse download page, or not.

AFAIK, there was no clear decision on how to proceed with the Europa Update 
Site. In my opinion, these two (Europa Update Site and EPP packages) should 
contain the same content, which means I am updating the packages if and only 
if the Europa Update Site will be updated to a Europa 
Fall-Maintenance-Maintenance version. We all should keep in mind, that the 
fixes in the Eclipse Platform addressed real show-stoppers, release critical 
bugs, and the decision for this bug-fix release was done by the PMC. 

First of all, we must decide if we change the complete Europa Update Site 
content or not, then we can think about a possible schedule for new EPP 
packages.

At the end of this email I would like to draw your attention to an interesting 
debate in the EPP newsgroup about our policies:
http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.technology.packaging/msg00100.html
It would be very nice to get more feedback from the community in this 
important discussion.

Markus

On Friday 26 October 2007 22:21, Mik Kersten wrote:
> Is there any a schedule for the EPP bundling yet?
>
>
>
> Platform has updated 3.3.1.1.  Mylyn is in the process of evaluating
> whether the 3.3.1.1 fix addresses some problems that were attributed to
> Mylyn.  We have a bug where Mylyn warnings are dumped to the Error Log, and
> within a couple of hours will figure out whether we want to push that fix
> into the upcoming EPP update (e.g. bug 188524
> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=188524> ).
>
>
>
> Mik
>
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>
>
> From: eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mik
> Kersten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:30 AM
> To: 'eclipse.org-planning-council'
> Subject: RE: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Europa Fall Maintenance still
> in progress?
>
>
>
> Mylyn is not currently planning on updating our Europa Fall Update
> features. However, just in case it would be good to know what the 3.3.1.1
> release and EPP bundling schedule is, e.g. by adding a line to:
>
>
>
>   http://wiki.eclipse.org/Europa#Coordinated_Maintenance
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>
>
> Mik
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>
>
> From: eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Oberhuber, Martin
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:11 AM
> To: eclipse.org-planning-council
> Subject: RE: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Europa Fall Maintenance still
> in progress?
>
>
>
> Hmm....
>
>
>
> thanks for the explanation, Bjorn.
>
>
>
> Wouldn't it be a good idea to decide about at least potentially promoting
> or not BEFORE we all silently update our features?
>
> Because if we decide in the end to not promote anything in the end, quite
> some work will have been in vain...
>
>
>
> I, personally, think it's a good idea to re-spin at least together with the
> Platform's re-spin such that we have
>
> a full-blown New Europa Fall Maintenance in the end.
>
>
>
> I'm also OK with re-spinning Maintenance more often, even though this makes
> the build non-reproducable
>
> (what would "the maintenance release" then be after all... bug reports and
> the like would need to include
>
> a date at which the build was taken).
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Martin Oberhuber
> Wind River Systems, Inc.
> Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
>
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>   _____
>
> From: eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Bjorn Freeman-Benson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:54 PM
> To: eclipse.org-planning-council
> Subject: Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Europa Fall Maintenance still
> in progress?
>
> I guess I should add: this is the same that we did at the beginning of
> July: the mechanism to re-spin the build was used, but in the end we
> decided not to promote it to the download site. We may choose to do the
> same, or not, this time.
>
> Oberhuber, Martin wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> there have been discussions about re-spinning
> Europa Fall Maintenance -- potentially with
> the Re-spin of Eclipse 3.3.1.1 that's ongoing.
>
> I wanted to also be on the train, and updated
> the features-dsdp-tm.xml with some patches
> we've made in the meantime.
>
> When I synchronized, I noticed that 10 other
> projects also seem to have updated their features.
>
> Do we have some silent agreement that Europa
> Maintenance is being re-spun periodically? Or
> is this a one-time special case?
> I'm OK with either, I was just surprised since
> we had that discussion beginning of July, and
> decided at that time to not do it...
>
> What does the Community think? Or did I miss
> any decision that's been made?
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Martin Oberhuber
> Wind River Systems, Inc.
> Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
> http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
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