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Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Europa impressions


seems that there is a separate notion of making stuff work together.  In theory most of these issues boil down to some issue(s) in one or more projects but it is still good to track them in a higher level way.  Two appoaches seem common :  keyword/annotation and tracking bugs.  Keywords or special annotations allow bugs to be tracked as relating to the higher level notion (e.g., Europa) while still living in their natural habitate.  Tracking bugs (e.g., how the Eclipse project and others do "plan" bugs) allow you to group together a specific set of bugs in potentially different projects/areas under one overarching bug.

Personally I favour tracking bugs.  That is analogous to what happens withthe cross-project bugs today but instead of moving the bugs, you would, leave one in the cross project area and have one (or more) in the project-specific areas.

Jeff



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Yes, I was aware of the "cross-project" component.

I think the keyword I am looking for, as an end-user, is for the bugs that were originaly opened against the "cross project" component,

then moved to the correct component for further investigation / correction and so on ( as some bug may travel from component to component).

We may loose track of bugs: such keyword might be an helper to easily retrieve europa related bugs (both for cross project and project specific bugs)

Again, I agree that existing bugzilla features may be sufficiant.


If nobody feels this might help, then it's ok for me.


Eric.


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You are aware, right? That we have a "cross-project" component, for "Europa Bugs".

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Eclipse+Foundation&product=Community&component=Cross-Project&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=


Typically if something "appears" to be cross-project related, the bug can be open there, and as it's investigated if it turns out to be merely project specific, the bug is moved.
If it really is cross-project, then ideally project specific bugs can be open as "depends on" bugs for each of the things specific projects have to do.

Does this satisfy the request? Or, was the keyword for something else?

Thanks



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Bjorn,

an "europa" bug is a bug I encountered using my "europa" config :-)

I agree with you, this is not  easy to track down:

1 - one may have the bug with Eclipse + one (europa) project / feature / plugin

2 - one may have the same issue using a "full europa" config


For case #1, an europa flag may not be needed, but I thing it might be good thing for case #2.

I'm just trying to find a way to catch-up any europa bug using bugzilla.


Any idea welcome.

Eric.


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Eric,
There are no "Europa" bugs - there are only bugs in each of the component projects. Some of those bugs, admittedly, are bugs that only appear when multiple projects are loaded. Thus I didn't create a europa bugs tag (yet). I flip the question back to you: what would you define as a "europa" bug?

- Bjorn

Eric Jodet wrote:


Also,

we may want to be able to track all europa bugs in Bugzilla.

Did not find corresponding keyword:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/describekeywords.cgi

Regarding the bugs I opens, I currently "tag" the bug summary with [europa].

Unless we have a common way of tagging europa bugs, it may become difficult to track down all europa bugs.


Bjorn?

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