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RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Europa impressions (screenshots)

Hi,

Even though I agree that it could be useful to run scripts on startup, none
are configured to run out of the box therefore we are creating
classloaders, and loading classes for nothing.
Given that there is an internal preferences to disable plug-ins from the
early startup, you could put your plugin on that preference the very first
startup and then change it back to normal when someone added a script to
run on startup (btw I have not found how to do that)

>Our plugins are quite small, so the hope is that our contribution to
startup times would be negligible, but we will check to make sure.
      This causes death of by a thousand cuts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_a_thousand_cuts

PaScaL




                                                                           
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Hi All,

We use the early startup infrastructure enable users to run scripts on
startup so that they can configure the workspace. This is something we use
in our own scripts, so it is a useful feature. With regards to the Monkey
top-level menu, we use that as a convenient place to allow people to access
scripts they have run, since they may be triggered via key commands. These
actions do not generally do the same things a "New" or "Import" wizard
would do, so placing them there would likely be more confusing than
helpful. One idea we've had is to contribute scripts to existing menus and
toolbars, but there isn't an obvious place to relocate the scripts menu
wholesale.

Other suggestions are appreciated. Our plugins are quite small, so the hope
is that our contribution to startup times would be negligible, but we will
check to make sure.

Best,
Ingo


From: cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Boris
Bokowski
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:47 AM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Europa impressions (screenshots)

Interesting.  I see that Buckminster and Monkey still contribute a
top-level menu for every perspective, with only a few items.  There must be
a better place for you to place your actions, don't you think? For example,
in the case of Eclipse Monkey, have you considered using the New or Import
wizard infrastructure?

Also, for those who register early startup runnables: Why do you have to do
this eagerly?  You are causing unnecessary long startup times.

Boris

On 6/1/07, Pascal Rapicault <Pascal_Rapicault@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  (See attached file: europa resource perspective.JPG)(See attached file:
  early startup.JPG)
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