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[cross-project-issues-dev] Issues with creating cross project download packages

Based on Kim Moirs suggestion I am cross-posting Markus email about the
status of the Packaging project and the problems they encountered
building the download packages to this list. Especially the packaging
(and dependencies) of some Europa projects make it difficult to build
the proposed download packages.

Cheers, Jochen


Hi *,

first of all the good news: Download packages are available for Windows
and Linux on the download page http://www.eclipse.org/epp/download.php.

But now a list of problems:

* The native installer for Windows is not included. Reasons for that can
be found in my last email. Please solve the build and IP issues!

* Visual Editor will be included in one of the next test packages. The
versions that are currently available don't work with Eclipse 3.3.

* It was the wrong decision to build the packages in the week after M7
of the Eclipse Platform. EPP is using the PDE Packager and relies on
working update sites, but these update sites were changing all the time.
It took more time than anyone of us expected. From the outside it may
look a bit weird, because in general its about using 'just' PDE build
and update manger, and this should be easy ;-) [But debugging the ANT
tasks and the update manager isn't really fun.]

* Mylar has dependencies to PDE. That's the reason why we need PDE in
the Java and J2EE packages. Is it possible for Mylar to remove these
dependencies? It would allow us smaller download packages, but it would
also lead to a better end user experience ('Why do I get those PDE
features, when I'm downloading an Eclipse Java package???')

* Having an XML editor in a package means integrating large parts of
webtools. 
In my opinion this is caused by the structure of the update sites. We
(EPP) can only include features that are reachable directly from the
update site (i.e. the feature must be in the site.xml). Webtools has
only org.eclipse.wst available in the site.xml - the features
org.eclipse.wst.xml... that we need are hidden for us.

Can someone else take over the Visual Editor, Mylar dependency and XML
editor problems while I am on holiday (until 2007-05-27). Apart from the
Installer issues, these things should be solved somehow.

Well, I am sure that I've forgotten something important, but I will send
it to the list when I'm back. In the meantime please file bugs in
bugzilla, write your comments and thoughts either to the mailinglist or
to the newsgroup.

Regards
Markus


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