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RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto stats

You are missing Boston Mass, USA.

Tod



Kim Moir/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA 
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Perhaps it would be best to categorize the development teams locations as 
cities. 

Cities where platform, pde, jdt, rcp, swt and equinox committers work 
in..I may have missed some... 
Saint Nazaire, France 
Zurich, Switzerland 
Ottawa, ON, Canada 
Toronto, ON, Canada 
Winnipeg, MB, Canada 
Austin, TX, USA 
Durham, NC, USA 
Beaverton, OR, USA 
Seattle, WA, USA 
Nizhny Novgorod, Russia 
Bangalore, India 

Ian, Sun also contributes to the platform project for solaris-gtk-x86 so 
please add them to your list of companies. 

Kim 




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"Number of development team locations" is a bit of an odd question. For 
example, teams are often distributed across multiple physical locations, 
there may not even be any obvious "central" location to associate with 
them. Similarly, there may be multiple locations per city; do you mean 
"physical buildings" where the teams are, or just cities they are in? And 
for that matter, I'm not actually sure it's possible to compute this 
without asking for information from our committers that they don't have to 
provide us (e.g. what city?) 

McQ. 


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All right just to please Denis, here is what I have come-up with for the
stats.  Attached is the spreadsheet with the details. 

> Number of committers = 262
*** I got this from DASH. 

> Number of development team locations   (if you are so inclined a list of 

> locations would be useful)

****  I could not derive this, so it would be useful if people could 
suggest
how I could or send me an estimate for their project.

> Number of companies contributing resources to the project = 15

**** The companies were derived from DASH and include
IBM,Actuate,Intel,Nokia,QNX,RedHat, TI, Wind River, Sybase, Borland, HP,
Scapa, BEA, Oracle, SAS.   The one thing this does not include are
committers categorized as individuals.   If anyone has a suggestion to
include individuals that are associated with organizations, it would be
appreciated.


> Number of bugzilla entries addressed during release

**** Thanks to Nick for this great SQL statement.  I used #4 on his sample
queries  http://www.eclipse.org/emf/plan/bugzillas-ies.php

> Number of LOC for the project
> Number of plug-ins
> Number of source files

**** I was not able to find out how to collect the numbers for the above
three stats.   If anyone has a suggestion, please let me know.


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The thought of Ian issuing SQL queries against the Bugzilla database is 
disturbing on so many levels, none of which have anything to do with the 
fact he works in the office next to me.

First he impressed me months ago by proving to be a good PHP hacker.

Then he'll surprise me by demonstrating that he can craft SQL statements 
like the best of 'em.

What's will be next...  Ian submits a patch to improve a piece of 
Eclipse code??  I wouldn't put it past him.

You show 'em, Ian. I'm rooting for you.  Marketing folks aren't all 
technically-challenged.

D.





Mike Wilson wrote:
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> I would be happy if you collected as much data as possible yourself. I 
> promise to either not complain or compute it myself, if you get it 
> wrong. ;-)
> 
> McQ.
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> *"Ian Skerrett" <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>*
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> Oh Doug, you have little faith.  J   I can definitely try to generate my 

> own numbers for some of the stats, however I thought it would be 'safer' 

> to get them directly from the source.  This way there would be no 
> interpretation errors. 
> 
> Ian
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> Ian Skerrett
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> *Doug Schaefer*
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> A-ha, but that will give you the real data, not the marketing data J. 
> One thing I've learned over the last little while is that marketing 
> resides on a different plane of the universe than what we're used to. 
> I'm very careful what numbers I give to marketing now because they can 
> be used for good but also evil. Not that Ian would do anything evil ;).
> 
> Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> Eclipse CDT Project Lead, Tools PMC member
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> Ian, can't you compute some of these things yourself with automated 
> querries? For example, the
>        http://www.eclipse.org/emf/plan/query.php
> page has this gem:
> 
> #--------#--------#--------#--------
> # count of bugs entered between two dates
> # for a given product
> 
> SELECT DISTINCT
>  count(BUG.bug_id) AS CNT
> FROM
>  bugs as BUG,
>  products as PROD
> WHERE
>  PROD.id = BUG.product_id AND
>  (PROD.name = 'EMF' OR PROD.name = 'XSD') AND
>  BUG.creation_ts >= '2004-07-01'
>    AND BUG.creation_ts <= '2005-07-07'
> 
> Which looks like it's close to what you need to get the bugzilla info. 
> Similarly, the list of committers for the Eclipse Project, for example 
> is already found here:
>        http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/commit.html
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> McQ.
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> *"Ian Skerrett" <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>*
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> I am getting prepared for the press outreach around Callisto.  An 
> important part of the message is the sheer size of the Callisto effort. 
>  Therefore, I would like to collect some cross project stats that we can 

> use.   It would be appreciated if each project leader could let me know 
> an estimate for each of the following stats.   I will then collate and 
> make it publicly available.    Let me stress, the numbers can just be 
> estimates, they don't need to be exact but please don't inflate them 
> either. J
> 
> Callisto Stats per project
> 
> Number of committers
> Number of development team locations   (if you are so inclined a list of 

> locations would be useful)
> Number of companies contributing resources to the project
> Number of bugzilla entries addressed during release
> Number of LOC for the project
> Number of plug-ins
> Number of source files
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> Btw, if anyone else has a stat you think we should collect, please feel 
> free to add it.
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> Thanks again for the help.
> 
> Ian
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