RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Best practices on versioning

["Richard Gronback" <Richard.Gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree, the sooner we are able to get together (following Callisto) and
discuss the details, the better.  There are lots of ideas and
implementations floating around (RSS, update manager utilization,
cruisecontrol, maven, etc.) that would be good to discuss (preferably in
person, imo). 

Perhaps this should be added to the agenda of discussion items for the
next Architecture and/or Planning Council meetings?

- Rich

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[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug
Schaefer
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:45 AM
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Subject: RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] Best practices on versioning

Well, you'd probably have to have a "script-off" to see who has the best
build scripts. Of course we are all happy with the Platforms rock solid
build process. But I think Rich's GMF builds are pretty cool too.

Then the unified releng team would have to adapt those scripts to make
sure they can build all the projects' bits. Obviously, a criteria for
the script- off would be extensibility.

Then we need to make sure we have enough machine power to do it all.

Then there's the process issues dealing with building such a big blob of
software and making sure the builds remain rock solid. Build breakage
will have a much larger impact that it does today for a lot of the
projects.

That's just off the top of my head. But if we are aiming for next year
(we need a name soon for the thing after Callisto), then I think we have
a lot of time to work out the issues. Getting it done early, though,
gives us the time to manage the culture change that would have to happen
to make it successful.

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, Tools PMC member http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
 

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[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ward
Cunningham
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:29 AM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Best practices on versioning


Doug Schaefer wrote:

> I would like to propose that we have one release engineering team, 
> with maybe participants from various projects, working on one single 
> set of build scripts and a single simultaneous build. This would solve

> a lot of problems, including the lag we have between Platform build 
> and Callisto release, and it would make it easier for us to line up 
> with "best practices".

Richard Gronback wrote:

> Perhaps this is something we can strive for incorporating into the 
> next Callisto (whatever it's called), meaning that if you sign up for 
> Callisto, you're also signing up to participate in (read:
> contribute to) a unified build?

What would have to happen, and how soon would we have to start, for the
product of this work to be routine, standard operating practice, by next
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