| FW: [cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto Meeting: 4/26/06 |
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Sending to the group. I believe we
covered this topic in a previous meeting, but I don’t recall the
conclusion. I’ll add it to the agenda for today. Doug From: Smith, Randy D
[mailto:randy.d.smith@xxxxxxxxx] Doug, I would hope the Callisto Project might
discuss this issue which was posted on Eclipse.Foundation and form a response.
I’m copying that posting here with my response that touches on a related
more minor issue. I think it essential Callisto deal with this issue if it
hadn’t already planned to. And, if the plan does deal with the
issue… my apologies for wasting your time. -- RDS Erkki Lindpere wrote: > Hi! > > I think the Callisto release train is
a great idea and hope it will be a > huge success. But how is one supposed
to get the various SDK's when the > runtimes have been installed from the
Callisto update site? > > At the very least I expect I should
be able to get the SDK's from the > update sites that are automatically
added by the projects installed from > the Callisto discovery site.
Currently this is not so, but is it going > to be with the final release? > > Just minutes ago I wanted to upgrade
to the RC1a version and: > 1. installed the Eclipse Platform runtime
(without JDK & PDE). > 2. installed several projects from
Callisto Discovery site (JDK, PDE, > TPTP and all it's requirements,
including WTP and BIRT) > 3. now I wanted to get the SDK's for
TPTP and the Eclipse Platform, but > when searching for new features from
ALL of the automatically added > update sites (from SWITCHmirror), the
only SDK's found that seemed to be > for the correct version were BIRT
& DTP (Other update sites showed > features for Eclipse 3.1 based
versions -- but would a relatively new > Eclipse user even realise that? And I
assume Callisto's purpose is also > to bring new users.) > > So the only option to get all the
SDK's is to download them manually? I > don't like this at all: it forces me
to mix manual installs with ones > managed by Eclipse (that is, if I
want to take advantage of the Callisto > Discovery site and not download
everything manually to begin with) and > what's more, actually comb through
the downloaded SDK's to not copy the > features & plugins that have
already been installed as part of the > runtimes... This feels like the worst
way of installing Eclipse than > ever been before. > > Erkki Let me offer a hearty "hear
hear" to your concern. I think that for Callisto to be successful the
complaint expressed here will have to be addressed. Erkki, you might want to add your name to
the cc list for bugzilla #138244 <
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=138244 >. There I expressed
concern about how a platform download results in a Help=>Contents that gives
the Workbench User Guide whose first page says "(You can get the
Welcome view back at any time by selecting <Help => Welcome>.)" This despite the fact
that Help=>Welcome does not exist on the platform download, or that download
with all of Callisto installed. So, in essence, my bugzilla is the tip of the
iceberg you've identified above. -- RDS From:
cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gaff, Doug On #1: ignore my date for RC2.
I pulled it off of the wrong schedule. According to the Callisto page,
it’s on May 5. From:
cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gaff, Doug Hi folks, Bjorn asked me to run the meeting in his absence. http://www.eclipse.org/projects/callisto.php 613.287.8000 -or- 866.362.7064 Agenda: 1. RC2 status for each project (due 4/28) 2. Tim’s questions about OOM errors and Performance
problems. 3. All-in-one zip proposal: http://www.eclipse.org/projects/callisto-files/callisto-download-proposal.php 4. Mega Release Review: Contribution Questionnaires
due yesterday. 5. Pack 200 update 6. Anything I missed. Doug G DSDP |