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On Behalf Of Ian Skerrett
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006
10:30 AM
To: 'Cross
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Subject: RE:
[cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto RC1 experience
I agree that we need to
fix the link on the home page. Unfortunately, I think I jumped the
gun on posting this, so I apologize for the confusion.
Could I suggest we just
change the headline and link to ‘Eclipse SDK 3.2 RC1 is now
available’ and point to the SDK download. Once the full
Callisto RC1 release is available we can do another post. Does this
make sense?
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[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Arthorne
Sent: April 20, 2006 10:15 AM
To: Cross
project issues
Subject: Re:
[cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto RC1 experience
That link on eclipse.org should really be fixed. It is
confusing two things in one news item. It says the RC1 build of the SDK
was available on April 13th, which is correct, but then it links to the Callisto
discovery page, which is *not* Callisto RC1. I believe it should be
corrected to say that Eclipse Callisto 3.2 M6 is available, and link direclty
to:
http://download.eclipse.org/callisto/releases/
Rather than going to the confusing Callisto planning page.
Also, the link shouldn't open a new browser window because it is navigating
within eclipse.org. We've really got to keep it simple if it's being put
on the main eclipse.org page for the whole community to see. We need to
consistently refer to Eclipse Callisto as the entire release train, rather than
just the platform. Until the entire release train reaches RC1, we
shouldn't be announcing that "Eclipse Callisto RC1 is available".
"Ed Burnette"
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The eclipse.org home page says Callisto RC1 is
"now available", so I click on the link which goes to:
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/callisto.php
There's nothing immediately visible on that first
page about downloading, except the "Downloads" link at the top, which
goes to the standard download page (and the most prominent link there is
Eclipse SDK 3.1.2). I know that's not right so I keep looking.
I scroll down the Callisto page about halfway and
find "Downloading and Using The Callisto Simultaneous Release". It
says:
The complete installation instructions are at the Callisto Update
Discovery page.
(http://download.eclipse.org/callisto/releases/)
I click on that link and it says:
"This update site provides the features of the Callisto Release --
currently the M6 version.
It requires that you have at least the Eclipse 3.2 Platform
Feature installed (the M6 version).
For example, to start with minimum foot-print, you can use the Platform
Runtime Binary appropriate for your operating system."
The link it gives for the Platform Runtime is
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.2M6-200603312000/callisto.php
.
Well I know that's not right so I go to the
standard download page, select All versions, select 3.2RC1, ignore all the
stuff at the top, scroll down halfway and find the section on Platform Runtime
Binary, and select the link for the Windows platform
(http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.2RC1-200604131718/download.php?dropFile=eclipse-platform-3.2RC1-win32.zip).
Firefox asks me if I want to save it or open it. I
know I should not overwrite my previous Eclipse install so I save it, rename my
old version of Eclipse out of the way, locate the new zip again in my downloads
directory, right-drag it to C:\Program Files, and select Extract to here
(because I happen to have WinZip installed). It creates an eclipse directory.
I start Eclipse, get some errors about unable to
restore workbench (I know this is ok because I was editing some Java programs
before). Now I'm pretty much staring at a blank screen (not exactly blank but
it says Java perspective, no icon, no editors, and has a blank stack of views
at the bottom with Search, Console, and Progress).
Well I happen to know that I should do Help >
Software Updates > Find and Install, select Search for new features to
install, click Next, select Callisto Discovery Site, and click Finish. The
window goes away for a while but I notice a progress counter in the bottom
right of the window. Then I get a dialog that says:
No features found on the selected site(s). Choose a different site or
site category.
It says it twice for good measure (once in the
title and once in the body), and has an OK button, which I press. Now I'm back
to my blank screen.
Now at this point I know I can go try some other
discovery url or go back and just get the 3.2RC1 SDK monster download, but how
are normal users going to "know" all the stuff that I know?
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