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[cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto experience take 2
- From: "Ed Burnette" <Ed.Burnette@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:07:38 -0500
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- Thread-topic: Callisto experience take 2
web page changes help but are incomplete. I'm trying to approach this as a new
user. This is a stream-of-conciousness log so bear with me.
Callisto page says "Use the update manager". Is that like "Use the force"? :) I
clicked on the link for the Callisto update site. It says I need to have at
least the "Eclipse 3.2 Platform Feature". Is that the same as "Platform Runtime
Binary" (using my new user hat remember)? Hmm, ok the 3rd sentence explains
that. The 4th sentence says to read the Eclipse Help. I click on that and it
says use Help > Software Updates.
where's the Help menu? Oh I see one, it says "Help and support center / Is this
copy of Windows legal / About Windows". Maybe this one: "Help contents / Release
notes / About Mozilla Firefox". Nobody told me I had to start Eclipse at this
point (don't laugh).
Eclipse started... hmm, nice Intro screen, why doesn't it say anything about
Callisto or updates or anything like that? I see four big icons: Overview,
Tutorials, Samples, What's new. Overview is ok. Tutorials and Samples are
completely blank. What's new is so-so, not really helpful to me at this
I find Help > Software Updates, etc.. The help said I needed to Add an
Update Site. What do I add?
Assuming I know enough to ignore that part of the help and select Help
> Software Updates > Install/Update. The default is "Search for updates of
the currently installed features". If I'm not paying attention and just hit
Finish then it's going to tell me there are no updates.
say I'm paying attention, and select "Search for new features to install". I
_ Callisto Update Site
_ Eclipse.org update site
one is right? Why isn't one selected by default? Why can't I edit them to see
where they point to?
look, a little question mark, click on that for help. It's not terribly helpful,
what's a bookmark, what's a feature, what does prepackaged mean, and why is
there a little square after "OS, locale, etc.)_"
don't even want to know what will happen if I pick the "Eclipse.org update site"
so I click the first option. I click Finish and get... an error dialog that
Network connection problems encountered during
click on Details and get:
click OK and get another dialog:
No features found on the selected site(). Choose a
No features found on the selected site(s). Choose a
different site or site category.
problem of course is it needs a proxy setting, but the new user would have no
clue. Why couldn't it pick up the Operating system proxy setting? IE works, FF
works, after all I got this Platform runtime thingy with no
8. I sent eclipse-dev an email :) and a lot of people sent
me nasty replies about that not being the right place but somebody told me what
to do. I select Window > Preferences > Install/Update,
click on Enable HTTP proxy, type the proxy host and proxy
'automatically select mirrors' not the default? Why are Automatic
Updates not turned on by default? It should default to look for updates at some
random time once a week, and it should default to 'Download new updates
automatically and notify me when ready to install them'.
click OK. Then Help > Software Updates > Find and Install. Why do I have
to go through that again, couldn't it have prompted me for a proxy in the middle
of the first update? Anyway, I hit Next, and Finish. Searching, searching,
searching. Beep! Search results:
_ Callisto Update Site
Callisto Update Site contains the M5a level of feature and plug-in for a number
of Eclipse based projects."(sic)
expand that and see all kinds of stuff... but that's all I have time for for
try walking through this and pretend you're not an expert and you'll run into
many of the same problems. Or watch someone else try to use