Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Policy for examples - and sdk's

[Peter Walker <walkerp@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>The example I had in mind at
the time was VE, where I don't think the examples bring any particular
value to the user. 

Pascal,
Which VE examples are you referring
to? VE provides an example zip as part of the build process and posted
each VE download page. It is separate from the runtime and SDK (for example
in VE 1.2M2 --> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/tools/ve/downloads/drops/S-1.2M2-200602271803/VE-examples-1.2M2.zip).
This is not for the general purpose user of VE but for those who
want to extend VE to create their own editor. This example is a bit out
of date and we haven't the development cycles to bring it up to date at
this time. But we have provided a very good tutorial/article written by
our project lead Dave Orme, and other members of the team... Gili Mendel,
and Joe Winchester. This is on the VE site under the documents section...
see http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextools.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/org.eclipse.ve.examples/org.eclipse.ve.example.customwidget/WebContent/index.html.


If you are referring to the examples
in the IDE that are created via File-->New-->Examples, there
are a few under AWT, Swing, and SWT that help the end user with simple
examples illustrating the use of various layouts. This is currently not
working in the latest VE 1.2M2 build and I've opened a bug to track this
(https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=130739).

Regards...

Peter Walker
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This helps. We now need to have those guidelines followed by all the callisto
projects :-) 
The example I had in mind at the time was VE, where I don't think the examples
bring any particular value to the user. 

PaScaL

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I suspect the answer is entirely who the auidenance is ... if for "end
user" then good policy to be part of "runtime" (which also
includes "user doc" (from a callisto point of view ... doesn't
mean that under the covers it might be in a seperate feature/plugin, for
those that literally want just some minimum runtime). 

But if for an "extender", then ... SDK. (and source and ISV doc
included with SDK). 

And in general, I think from Callisto's point of view ... should just be
"runtimes" and "SDKs" ... with the biggest distinction
being the audience of "end users" vs. "extenders" ..
but, I'm sure, there's fuzzy areas. 


Does this help? Have any examples in mind? (is that a pun?)

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Having played around with the content from the callisto site, I would like
to know what is the policy for projects to make their examples available:
- are they coming in the "runtime" feature?
- are they part of the SDK feature? 
- are they coming separetly? 

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