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[cross-project-issues-dev] RE: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Callsito M5 is missing GEF and VE -where's the commitment to participate?

-1 (re the attitude, not helpful)

 

We could all whine about how poorly run this has been from the start, unclear or missing requirements that just “materialize” at some late date and we’re all expected to be sitting around waiting to comply, etc.  Or, we could try to best accommodate a dynamic, challenging situation – both within our projects and with Callisto – which is what it appears we are doing. 

 

I suspect disconnects are mostly a result of extremely busy schedules and misunderstood expectations vs. the negative connotations you’re spreading below.

 

Re GEF and VE targeted availability on Feb 24, were they possibly impacted by availability of Eclipse Platform M5a on Feb 24 vs. Feb 17 as scheduled?

 

Let’s notch up again the level of demonstrated respect and get on with this.

 

Thanks,

 

--tyler

 

PS There’s a slight risk to our TPTP M5 milestone this Friday, Mar 3.  Final testing is underway and expected to finish Thursday/Friday – not much room for any glitches.

 


From: eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse.org-planning-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:03 PM
To: John Duimovich; djo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; hudsonr@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: John Kellerman; cross-project-issues-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; eclipse.org-planning-council
Subject: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Callsito M5 is missing GEF and VE -where's the commitment to participate?

 

<Warning>I'm done being the nice guy; I'm tired of some project leads saying they want to be part of Callisto but then not actually participating in the "Callsito community".</Warning>

Dave, Randy, John,
The Callisto M5 milestone schedule (that we all agreed to), had GEF and VE being available (the milestone complete and ready to go on the update sites) on 24-Feb.  Today is 28-Feb 11pm PST and neither of your milestones are available on the Callisto staging update site.  Are you planning on being full members of Callisto?  Perhaps you don't like the requirement to be part of the update site? If so, you should speak up rather than just ignoring our collective decisions. At the very least, you should be telling the rest of the Callisto team that you are having troubles meeting the requirements - saying nothing is really not an option here.

Dave,
In the last Callisto conference calls you said you were on track/status green (here and here) - what happened? Did "status green" not include actually producing an update site?

John, Randy,
Neither of you have attended a single one of the Callisto conference calls.  Nor have you bothered to provide your regrets - you've just plain been missing.  You're on the mailing lists. You know the schedule.  So what's the story? Too important to participate?  It certainly isn't showing much community participation if you can't even be bother to tell us that you're not going to call in...

- Bjorn