Re: [cbi-dev] Orbit, maven.eclipse.org, etc.

[Andrew Ross <andrew.ross@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi David,

Thanks for that. I think that's good now.

To answer your question, the fact orbit content isn't available in 
maven.eclipse.org certainly was noteworthy. It was something important 
to look at in any case in the context of LTS, Polarsys, etc. Thinking 
about this made it clear the issue is larger than simply putting Orbit 
content into maven, which was the point of this page.

Andrew

On 02/17/2012 11:06 AM, David M Williams wrote:
> I agree, you seem to not understand Orbit, I tried to edit, but got
> "conflict" with your edits, but still see your "list of concerns" about
> Orbit in the summary, which I don't understand. Here is what I was going to
> say about Orbit:
>
> Orbit provides a centralized clearing house for IP policy approved 3rd
> party dependencies. [dw edits, 02/17/2012]<del>Orbit provides this
> software as a zip file containing bundles for all software. This would be
> better if it were componentized so that just what is needed can be
> consumed.</del>  Orbit provides this software as a p2 repository, so only
> those bundles required by a build need to be fetched from that repository.
> The standard PDE build does this transparently. [not sure about others
> build systems.] A large archive file of the while p2 repository is
> provided, for those that prefer to have their own copy on, say, on some
> "off site" server so they can do builds disconnected from the internet.
>
> I think you might be trying to "talk around" the main Orbit complaint which
> is "there is no mavenized version of Orbit bundles"? No?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:	Andrew Ross<andrew.ross@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:	Common-build Developers discussion<cbi-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Date:	02/17/2012 10:59 AM
> Subject:	Re: [cbi-dev] Orbit, maven.eclipse.org, etc.
> Sent by:	cbi-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> Thanks for the quick feedback and correction Kim. I removed that concern. I
> saw the zip, but wasn't sure if people were pulling it or accessing the
> bundles inside directly off a URL.
>
> On 02/17/2012 10:53 AM, Kim Moir wrote:
>        Andrew,
>
>        I'm confused by your statement "Orbit provides this software as a zip
>        file containing bundles for all software. This would be better if it
>        were componentized so that just what is needed can be consumed. "
>
>        Orbit provides p2 repos full of nice bundle components :-)
>
>        http://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/R20120119162704/orbitBundles-R20120119162704.p2.map
>
>
>        We don't download the zip, we just consume the bundles we need and
>        have been approved to consume from the Orbit repos.
>
>        Kim
>
>
>
>
>        From:        Andrew Ross<andrew.ross@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>        To:        Common-build Developers discussion<cbi-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>        Date:        02/17/2012 09:40 AM
>        Subject:        [cbi-dev] Orbit, maven.eclipse.org, etc.
>        Sent by:        cbi-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>        Hi Everyone,
>
>        I wanted to share some thoughts around Orbit, maven.eclipse.org, etc.
>        as
>        I feel it is very important, a deceptively big problem at the moment,
>
>        and I don't think I articulated my thoughts well up to this point.
>        This
>        wiki page attempts to do so:
>        http://wiki.eclipse.org/CBI/Distribution
>
>        I'd like to discuss this as part of the agenda at next week's CBI
>        meeting. I'm sure the information on the wiki could use more details
>        for
>        completeness/correctness, so please help make it so in what ever way
>        is
>        most convenient for you such as editing the wiki, replying to this
>        list,
>        calling me, etc.
>
>        Thanks very much,
>
>        Andrew